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Post by Glenn on Jul 21, 2017 19:30:06 GMT -6
Let's have a good thread of old pics and discussion of same. I'll start  |
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Post by jayh on Jul 22, 2017 0:15:21 GMT -6
I think that bull would work today? Thoughts on that?
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Post by redgem on Jul 22, 2017 7:02:54 GMT -6
He's better than some that I've seen being sold today. Would do a lot of good in some herds.
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Post by elkwc on Jul 22, 2017 10:41:45 GMT -6
Has the length that has been bred out of many
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Post by strojanherefords on Jul 25, 2017 13:56:23 GMT -6
Does anybody know if there is still some semen on any of John Wayne's bulls? |
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Post by Carlos (frmaiz) on Jul 25, 2017 15:42:23 GMT -6
 Don Piegan 62  NT Husky Rupert 124 (1961) |
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Post by Glenn on Jul 25, 2017 16:06:33 GMT -6
Some of my better cows go back to HB Piegan 129 (sire of the Don Piegan 62 bull) and Mark Piegan 17 (his grandsire)....Mostly Errol Fritz breeding....a lot of that Piegen stuff went on into Hartland - Lincoln Breeding that was the base of some Holden cows....
In fact, I have been line breeding to that cow family a bit....
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Post by Glenn on Jul 25, 2017 16:29:39 GMT -6
Just a reminder that 'old' doesn't always mean good. 1964  |
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Post by btlrupert on Jul 25, 2017 16:38:15 GMT -6
That's scary but true!
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Post by jayh on Jul 25, 2017 16:54:04 GMT -6
Doesn't have to be old to have same results. Lol. Was that in the dwarf era.
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Post by Carlos (frmaiz) on Jul 25, 2017 17:11:13 GMT -6
 Vern Dermott  Vern Robert |
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Post by sjarman on Jul 25, 2017 17:27:47 GMT -6
 Mark Donald 77  Mck Donald Dhu 43 |
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Post by sjarman on Jul 25, 2017 17:29:28 GMT -6
Donald Domino 16th Attachments:
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Post by Carlos (frmaiz) on Jul 25, 2017 18:18:01 GMT -6
Some Ladies: Dornley Prettymaid  Prunella 2nd  Oyster Queen
Dornley Gaymaid 
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Post by Glenn on Jul 26, 2017 8:27:49 GMT -6
Cool stuff guys. Keep em coming...
I'd be interested in historical pics that relate back to your own breeding of you had any.
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Post by Carlos (frmaiz) on Jul 26, 2017 9:09:23 GMT -6
An Argentine bull, Niagara Selecto 3 born in 1992. Same prefix all the way back, except for Big Northern in the fourth generation. An outstanding herd that was dispersed after Mr. Simón Pereyra Yraola death.  |
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Post by randy on Jul 27, 2017 14:36:36 GMT -6
One needs to remember that the biggest change in cattle today over 50 years ago is defects. We have bred many defects out by selection and culling. If you choose to go back and use one of the older bulls I believe you should be very careful until you know what you actually have.
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Post by larso on Jul 27, 2017 16:17:06 GMT -6
Funny you should say that, cause I see more defects creeping into the breed today than I ever saw 40 years ago eg. LP, loose sheaths, under shod jaws , incorrect eye setting, feet structure etc. it would seem in the chase for better figures some very fundamental basic structural issues are ignored. 40 years ago that's all the breeders had to go by hence they paid attention to them.
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Post by btlrupert on Jul 28, 2017 6:58:53 GMT -6
Who had NT Husky Rupert 124? Could not get that pedigree to pull up in database.
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Post by mrrherefords on Jul 28, 2017 7:56:05 GMT -6
A lot of chrome in the last picture. Just wondering, did a lot of older cattle have a lot of white? I see some today, but not extremely often and not quite as much as the last pic there. I have a few with a bit of chrome but personally do not care for much white as I try to keep mine conservatively marked. |
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Post by hoekland on Jul 28, 2017 9:25:02 GMT -6
English cattle have more chrome. Some still do
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Post by Carlos (frmaiz) on Jul 29, 2017 17:32:21 GMT -6
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Post by hoekland on Jul 30, 2017 3:55:59 GMT -6
I enjoy your sense of humour 👍🏻
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Post by woodford on Jul 30, 2017 14:40:31 GMT -6
A few years ago, a Hereford Breeder's daughter was here for a visit. She was a retired school teacher and had been away from the Hereford breed and rural life for 20-30 years. She was feeling nostalgic, and asked to see a Hereford World so she could see examples of the breed.
After looking for about 30 seconds, she looked up and exclaimed, " My God, if we had raised something like that, we would have butchered it as soon as possible!"
I might suggest the same for some of the above.
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Post by Glenn on Jul 30, 2017 16:11:16 GMT -6
More recent History. MSU BT ADVANCER 056 
Particularly Ugly. Typical of getting eggheads involved with cattle breeding.. |
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