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Post by strojanherefords on Mar 19, 2019 19:20:47 GMT -6
What spurred the renewed testing for MUSD? And what else is hiding in the DNA tests?
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Mar 19, 2019 21:09:09 GMT -6
Well apparently I enjoy looking through pedigrees, interesting for such a short list of 276 how the same names keep popping up, some polled some horned some I wouldn't have remembered if I hadn't seen them again and again. The other thing you notice is for the 33,000 they claim to have checked they sure seem to have missed checking most of the popular bulls for the last few years. I haven't been keeping up the latest greatest the last few years so I thought I should find out who Hyalite was on the On Target 936 bull, turns out he lives about 30 miles from me  . Might check out who the R leader bull is that Glenn mentioned but I probably won't. Herefords don't seem to be as much fun as they used to be, maybe I should just stay off the web, ignorance is bliss, right, or start planting fruit tree again, something.  |
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Post by timbernt on Mar 20, 2019 5:50:59 GMT -6
What is really hard to swallow is the Bryce Schumans of this breed strutting around like they are God's gift to the cattle business. Turns out they are as big a joke as they appear.
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Post by redgem on Mar 20, 2019 8:17:31 GMT -6
What spurred the renewed testing for MUSD? And what else is hiding in the DNA tests? My guess is there's some fat coyotes and buzzards from someone linebreeding. As Glen said some know were the skeleton are. |
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Mar 20, 2019 15:22:18 GMT -6
I've got 4 or 5 sale catalogs this week, hopefully they are rushing the test for sale lots through, anyone gonna buy one that's not been tested right now.
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Mar 20, 2019 20:12:17 GMT -6
I talked to my friends who watched the Shorthorn influx into Herefords and they said the reason was the milking Shorthorn to add milk. The timeframe was earlier than I thought. 30's and 40's. So what bulls or lines in the 40's and 50's were known to produce good milking cows and we'll have a winner. |
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Post by tartancowgirl on Mar 21, 2019 17:53:39 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see if the UK HCS will start testing for MSUD. There has been no mention of it so far, and recently they stopped testing for diluter and IE. They are only testing bulls now for hypotrichosis.
I was just thinking that there are so many reasons why a very young calf could die with similar signs, and even if post mortem was carried out, the pathologist wouldn’t necessarily diagnose MSUD if nobody suggested it as a potential cause of death. As a result the defect could be widespread in UK and we wouldn’t know about it.
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Post by timbernt on Mar 21, 2019 21:38:33 GMT -6
I wonder how many times it has been confused with IE.
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Post by strojanherefords on Mar 21, 2019 22:57:47 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see if the UK HCS will start testing for MSUD. There has been no mention of it so far, and recently they stopped testing for diluter and IE. They are only testing bulls now for hypotrichosis. I was just thinking that there are so many reasons why a very young calf could die with similar signs, and even if post mortem was carried out, the pathologist wouldn’t necessarily diagnose MSUD if nobody suggested it as a potential cause of death. As a result the defect could be widespread in UK and we wouldn’t know about it. I wonder if the HCS really stopped testing or if they just stopped reporting the results for diluter and ie. |
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Post by whiteface on Mar 22, 2019 12:21:01 GMT -6
I get the Black Hereford quarterly equivalent to the Hereford World just for reading material. I already threw it away but they had an article about MSUD and I could have sworn it said 13% of the "breed" are carriers.......
**Sorry it said a sample of 287 animals. Not the entire "breed"
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Post by tartancowgirl on Mar 23, 2019 16:27:23 GMT -6
It will be interesting to see if the UK HCS will start testing for MSUD. There has been no mention of it so far, and recently they stopped testing for diluter and IE. They are only testing bulls now for hypotrichosis. I was just thinking that there are so many reasons why a very young calf could die with similar signs, and even if post mortem was carried out, the pathologist wouldn’t necessarily diagnose MSUD if nobody suggested it as a potential cause of death. As a result the defect could be widespread in UK and we wouldn’t know about it. I wonder if the HCS really stopped testing or if they just stopped reporting the results for diluter and ie. Hmm hadn’t thought of that ... |
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Mar 23, 2019 20:54:19 GMT -6
Whose telling porkys ?? For Genseek to say only 2mths ago they didn’t have a test or had never heard of MSUD is a load of crap ( excuse my English) 12 mths ago every bull going to our national show and sale had to be tested for MSUD ,who by Genseek !!! If the so called boys running the show think they can treat the rank and file like mushrooms ( kept in the dark and fed bullshit ) they had better think again. We are experiencing the worst drought on record in eastern Australia it is extremely hard to keep going and motivated the very least we should expect from our associations is honesty, if Jack Ward is going to come out here and pedal his BS he can and will get a hostile audience. I make no apologies for this post , if it gets deleted I don’t care I’ve had enough ! Looks like the were testing back in 93 in Oz link |
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Mar 26, 2019 13:51:38 GMT -6
Predominant 25U is somewhat unusual, a bull born in 1963 listed as MSUDF. Wonder if that had something to do with 15G, he his linebred to him.
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Post by redgem on Apr 12, 2019 7:55:53 GMT -6
This one is a wait what?  ? RTF 456B 135U QUEEN VACA F35ET {DLF,HYF,IEF,MSUDC} (P43947771) Wonder how many more will show up? |
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Post by strojanherefords on Apr 12, 2019 9:42:07 GMT -6
This one is a wait what? ? RTF 456B 135U QUEEN VACA F35ET {DLF,HYF,IEF,MSUDC} (P43947771) Wonder how many more will show up? How many more are out there are like her that have been registered and ET approved in spite the DNA samples not matching? |
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Post by soherf on Jul 3, 2022 15:48:29 GMT -6
This one is a wait what?  ? RTF 456B 135U QUEEN VACA F35ET {DLF,HYF,IEF,MSUDC} (P43947771) Wonder how many more will show up? This female now shows to have been retested and is MSUDF as of 7/3/2022. |
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. Might check out who the R leader bull is that Glenn mentioned but I probably won't. Herefords don't seem to be as much fun as they used to be, maybe I should just stay off the web, ignorance is bliss, right, or start planting fruit tree again, something. 
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