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Post by Glenn on Jun 14, 2016 10:34:08 GMT -6
was looking through an older (not too old) AHJ and was curious as to when some of these herds "went out"? I'm sure some of our grizzled vets might know. And some may still be around and I am just unaware.
No particular order and any stories or recollections would be interesting (to me at least)
Bright Bros
Lone Star
26 Bar
Jacks Valley Ranch
Green Gulch
Lee Campbell Ranch
Dillard Hereford Ranches
John Venhuizen
Courtney Herefords
Wishbone Herefords
Ryel Herefords
Harland Herefords
Chuck Feddes Ranch
Holmes Herefords
Tesquite Ranch (TE Mitchell & Sons)
Rees Bros
Ochs Bros
Orvis Cattle Company
K&B Herefords
Carlson Herefords-Raymond Nelson Herefords
Oregon Hereford Ranch
John Schmidt & Sons
Rock Creek Herefords
Von Forell Herefords
Peckenpaugh Ranches
Pied Piper Farms
Shield Bar Herefords
07 Ranch (Tiberius Cattle)
Tachenko Bros
Murray J Brown & Sons
Middleswarth Herefords
Adams Bros & co.
Charles Higgins
Marvin Feddes & Sons
Camco Herefords
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Post by George on Jun 14, 2016 15:54:53 GMT -6
Pied Piper Farms bought a bull in some sale this year.
I don't think they ever truly dispersed although they have had dispersion sales.
A man who worked for them, Doyle Ponder, was a source of many stories about Anxiety 4th Herefords and the early years when my Dad and I visited their place several times in my youth. We bought 2 sons of their herd sire, Golden Superior, and a number of females from them.
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Post by kph on Jun 14, 2016 16:44:44 GMT -6
I know John Schmidt and Feddes (Marvin) are still going strong. K & B had a dispersion in 2010.
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Post by bookcliff on Jun 14, 2016 17:03:56 GMT -6
hardy and chuck went Red angus in the mid to late 90's, last I knew tommy was still in business but had turned 07 commercial, ABC and Murray still register a few, james birght dispersed in the late half of the 90''s-some where in that time frame anyway, When orville dispered Wishbone somewhere around 13-14 years ago he bought into the Valentine NE salebarn and still has a few commercial Hereford interests.......
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Middleswarths, Pied Piper, Feddes, Schmidt's, Courtney's, Raymond Nelson, Holmes and Bruce Orvis (last I heard) are still going strong. if fact my carload pen is directly across the alley from John's and Jays is one up from John's at Denver and Nelsons have ben bringing cattle to the yards the last couple of years. the Holmes deal is now called by Drake.
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Post by Glenn on Jun 14, 2016 17:05:32 GMT -6
Thanks for the info, guys! Y'all are the best. I knew some of you would know. I appreciate it. Also welcome more info if others have any.
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Post by bltherf on Jun 14, 2016 19:14:58 GMT -6
Stopped for a quick visit with Orville Beyea on my way thru Valentine this past January. He is still very much a die hard hereford fan. He' s doing some writing about past Hereford history and events. Also helps advise some young breeders in the area.A great old gentleman.
Oregon hereford ranch, Bill Bennett brother, raised done great foundation cattle. Lot of Selkirk I beleive.
Fed des still raise some very good cattle.
Think Jacks Valley ranch was Johnny Asguaga who ran the casino in Reno. Visited him years ago when he was using a bull of ours. Great guy. Basque heritage. No longer in a Herefords but the Reno show deal still happens.
Had a few great visits with Murray Brown back in the Midland Test days. Hardy Von Forrell was married to Mary, daughter of the owners and manager of the Midland test, Leo Macdonald. Kinda sad to think of so much breed diversity we have lost
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Post by randy on Jun 14, 2016 19:45:29 GMT -6
Selkirk Hereford Ranch
Pine Creek Ranch
Hot Springs Ranch
McBride Herefords
Grass Valley Ranch
Northern Pump Farms
Schroeder Cattle Co
George Werth
AEP Herefords
Grande-Petersen Herefords
Beartooth Ranch
Split Butte Ranch
Thayer Stevens
Pete Nelson
Jensen Bros
Bob Goggins
DR Herefords
Dan Landers
Twin V Ranch
Soldier MTN Herefords
Lamey herefords
Alfalfa Lawn Farms
Floyd Wampler
Helmer-Brent Horn
Weldon Edwards
Dick Davis
Spur Cattle Co
Fulscher Herefords
Darris Cummings-Russ Nelson
Waggonner Herefords- Leroy Grapes
Lonker Herefords
Rusk Ranch
07 Ranch
26 Bar
Higgins Brothers
Rothwell Herefords
Hayes Land and Cattle
Radakovich Herefords
TT Herefords
Clinesmith Herefords
Lyle Laeger
Lacey Herefords
John Anderson
Jacobsen Herefords
Budd Herefords
Rod-Doug Hinman
Richard Lucas
Stuart Herefords
Scott Holden
M&M Hereford Ranch
Derry Herefords
EE
George Harris
Granite Hills
Grand Valley Farms
Omega Plantation
Thompson Herefords
Madison River Cattle Co-Quinta land and Cattle
Brooks Ranch?
IOU Ranch
Preuitt-Wray
Goemmer Bros
I will think of some more...lol
Tom Dashiel
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Post by randy on Jun 14, 2016 19:55:18 GMT -6
Becker Herefords Hillman Herefords @ Tetonia, ID Rudd Herefords Loosli Herefords Frank Sparks Robert Schmitt? Max Beyler Ted Morgan Errol-Jim Fritz Intake farms Kline Herefords Jeff Wagner Herefords Bill Jacobs Ute Trail Ranch P&P Herefords John Stephenson Raby Herefords Wilson Herefords Sellmon Herefords Ernest Olson & Sons Herefords Van Kampen Herefords- Windsor Hills INC Harrop Herefords Naugle Herefords Charlie Cox Frank Rogers-AD Clark Bill Clark Glenhaven Trails INC Still House Hollow Cobbler MTN Farms Carnation Milk farms John McKnight Iodence... Bill and Charlie?  Leland Roen Bob Roen Who was the outfit at Nara Visa NM??? Not Copeland... Who was the guy that always had 2-3 really good heifers on the road... Cannot remember the fitters name who hauled them... Texas-NM??? |
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Post by strojanherefords on Jun 14, 2016 20:23:55 GMT -6
Bright brothers sold out in 2000, as I understand it a divorce or estate settlement forced the sale. Went to the sale with my dad and grandfather, and we had lunch with Geno Pedretti before the sale. My dad bought a few cows. They were hard doing cows that made the Ochs cattle look moderate.
I had the opportunity to talk to Ken Ochs a few years after they sold the cows to New Mexico. Ken said that environmentalists forced them off the ranch in Gunnison, Colorado.
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Post by randy on Jun 14, 2016 20:41:35 GMT -6
was looking through an older (not too old) AHJ and was curious as to when some of these herds "went out"? I'm sure some of our grizzled vets might know. And some may still be around and I am just unaware. No particular order and any stories or recollections would be interesting (to me at least) Bright Bros Lone Star 26 Bar Jacks Valley Ranch Green Gulch Lee Campbell Ranch Dillard Hereford Ranches John Venhuizen Courtney Herefords Wishbone Herefords Ryel Herefords Harland Herefords Chuck Feddes Ranch Holmes Herefords Tesquite Ranch (TE Mitchell & Sons) Rees Bros Ochs Bros Orvis Cattle Company K&B Herefords Carlson Herefords-Raymond Nelson Herefords Oregon Hereford Ranch John Schmidt & Sons Rock Creek Herefords Von Forell Herefords Peckenpaugh Ranches Pied Piper Farms Shield Bar Herefords 07 Ranch (Tiberius Cattle) Tachenko Bros Murray J Brown & Sons Middleswarth Herefords Adams Bros & co. Charles Higgins Marvin Feddes & Sons Camco Herefords How many reride stories do you want... maybe we should all get together and have a Summit... No guns allowed and only known true gossip...lol |
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Post by randy on Jun 14, 2016 20:52:30 GMT -6
Jay George and gary McDonald could probably tell one more than anyone... They sold the breed off pretty much with ULB...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 21:12:21 GMT -6
Selkirk Hereford Ranch Pine Creek Ranch Hot Springs Ranch McBride Herefords Grass Valley Ranch Northern Pump Farms Schroeder Cattle Co George Werth AEP Herefords Grande-Petersen Herefords Beartooth Ranch Split Butte Ranch Thayer Stevens Pete Nelson Jensen BrosBob Goggins DR Herefords Dan Landers Twin V Ranch Soldier MTN Herefords Lamey herefords Alfalfa Lawn Farms Floyd Wampler Helmer-Brent Horn Weldon Edwards Dick Davis Spur Cattle Co Fulscher Herefords Darris Cummings-Russ Nelson Waggonner Herefords- Leroy Grapes Lonker Herefords Rusk Ranch 07 Ranch 26 Bar Higgins Brothers Rothwell Herefords Hayes Land and Cattle Radakovich Herefords TT Herefords Clinesmith Herefords Lyle Laeger Lacey Herefords John Anderson Jacobsen Herefords Budd Herefords Rod-Doug Hinman Richard Lucas Stuart Herefords Scott Holden M&M Hereford Ranch Derry Herefords EE George Harris Granite Hills Grand Valley Farms Omega Plantation Thompson Herefords Madison River Cattle Co-Quinta land and Cattle Brooks Ranch? IOU Ranch Preuitt-Wray Goemmer Bros I will think of some more...lol Tom Dashiel If this is the same Jensen Bros that I am thinking of where in the hell did you think Jensen Bros are out of business because they are very much alive and well: www.jensenbros.net/ They bought the top selling bull off of the Rausch sale the other year in R Leader 6964 so pretty sure they are alive and kicking when they can afford to drop 60K on a bull. If you are referring to the same Radakovich that I'm familar with which are about 15 minutes away from us haven't visited them in quite some time but I would not be shocked if they still have some commercial Herefords on their farm but they are mostly raising Black and Red Angus now: www.rccgenes.com/ |
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Post by guffeygal on Jun 14, 2016 21:14:21 GMT -6
I think the Nara Vista people were Jay Camack (Camco). He was one of the first I remember getting into embryo transplant pretty heavily. Was it Kent Phifer who showed his cattle?
I think Northern Pump went out about 76 or 77. Went to that dispersion with my Dad. He had always liked the Colorado Domino cattle and they had done well for him at Par-Ker's.
Charlie Higgins must have gone in the late 80's. 26 Bar and Granite Hills in 85. George Werth went Saler route around early to mid 80's I think. Rusk went Angus somewhere about that time.
Alfalfa Lawn seems like soon after Joe got killed in a farm accident around 90. Johnny kept the ranch til about 2006.Spur Cattle Co. was early 80's. Wasn't TT Herefords the precursor of Stone's? Waggoner Herefords of Wyoming sold in the early 80's to some area people who's name escapes me. Don't think they stayed with registered business very long. Last I knew Wayne Fields still helps Middleswarth's part time. Lives in Henry.Seems like Hinman's did not stay with Registered cattle too long after they moved to Nebraska. Maybe longer than I remember. I think Selman's have gone club calf route. At least one of Butch's boys. George Harris sold out to EE. I think EE has gone more cutting horses since Bill Ellard's death.Bill Jacobs was killed in a car wreck around 5 years ago. Think his son has gone all commercial. I think Wilson's all commercial. Big write up on them in High Plains Journal 2-3 years ago.Seems like Still House was in late 70's. I think John McKnight went Brangus in later years. John Venhuizen is Churchill. Harland Herefords seems like about 10 years ago. Orville Beyea told us Adams Ranch is still going. I think he said Roger Chenowyth was still there but not many registered cattle if I remember correctly.
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Post by guffeygal on Jun 14, 2016 21:19:14 GMT -6
I think Randy was referring to Jensen Brothers of Circle Montana. We bought a good set of heifers from them when we worked for Charlie Higgins. I was only acquainted with Earl. Good cowman and a very nice person.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 21:55:51 GMT -6
I think Randy was referring to Jensen Brothers of Circle Montana. We bought a good set of heifers from them when we worked for Charlie Higgins. I was only acquainted with Earl. Good cowman and a very nice person. If that is the case I'm sorry I got so worked up on that one. Just goes to show you how regional this breed can be! |
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Post by rvf1986 on Jun 14, 2016 22:06:34 GMT -6
Still House sold out in the late 60's or early 70's. Cobbler Mountain is now owned by Nancy Golightly (Henry Sander's) daughter and her family. They have a small but good herd of about 30 cows.
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Post by picketwire on Jun 14, 2016 23:41:09 GMT -6
Goemmer bros went commercial when I was still a young pup. Used some red angus and saler before coming back to hereford.
Toured Schroeder and Radakovich in 93 on a csu tour. Schroeder was strictly commercial and Radakovich was breeding red composites and Barzonas.
Enjoyed several conversations with Orville Beyea when he was dispersing.
Dad and grandad sold a package of hfrs to pronger brothers long before I was around.
A few names in some of those lists not too well thought of anymore, at least in hereford circles. . .
Learned a few showmanship tricks from Darris Cummings when a young pup. . .
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Post by avignon on Jun 15, 2016 2:06:30 GMT -6
The exit of whiteface breeders is not only a North american issue - I would estimate we have seen nearly 50% of members leave the hereford breed in Australia in the past 20 years.
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Post by randy on Jun 15, 2016 6:58:50 GMT -6
I think Randy was referring to Jensen Brothers of Circle Montana. We bought a good set of heifers from them when we worked for Charlie Higgins. I was only acquainted with Earl. Good cowman and a very nice person. Yes... Barney and Earl Jensen Circle, MT.... They had one hell of a cowherd..3J Montana Dominos etc..... Higgins Bros at Ringling , MT? Another one I don't know about is Stan Lund at Reserve, MT |
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Post by bllcattle on Jun 15, 2016 7:21:44 GMT -6
Hello everyone. Earl Jensen still agoing. Just commercial angus anymore. Son wes running it. Earl is 92 and still every active.
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Post by randy on Jun 15, 2016 7:24:29 GMT -6
Richard Sell? I think he went Red Angus?
Leroy Born? Are the younger Borns still breeding Herefords.. They knew how to spend $$ very well...
Tree-Fine Herefords?
Mullendore Beef??? Were they at Missoula, MT
Post Rock Herefords Waldo, KS?
Nunnally? Roy Roberts? Is it true the ranch is now Sub Divided Estates and a Golf course?
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Post by bllcattle on Jun 15, 2016 7:29:28 GMT -6
Jim Higgins just commercial cattle but once a while still use a hereford bull to crossbreed. Stan lunde I will ask mom about them??
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Post by guffeygal on Jun 15, 2016 8:06:28 GMT -6
LeRoy Born went Angus. Saw him at an Angus sale around 10 years ago. Last I knew Harry's family still had some Herefords. Stopped by there maybe 7-8 years ago and had a nice visit with Harry, and Lynn. Harry had a bout with cancer about the same time as Wayne Haygood but beat it to the best of my knowledge.
Post Rock seem like has been gone quite a while. Use to see Ray Forbes son Warren once in a while but have lost track of him, A neighbor of theirs Eulerts must have gone out in early to mid 2000's.
Seems like Lund's dispersed in late 70's . I think Carlson's bought the mother of The Arrow in that sale. I have always heard good things about their cattle but never got to see them.
I think The Brooks Family received an Honor in Montana the last couple of years. I think one of the brothers is still alive. Grand Daughter's husband Bob Weaber is K-State Extension Cow-Calf Specialist and is well thought of.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 8:47:31 GMT -6
I think Randy was referring to Jensen Brothers of Circle Montana. We bought a good set of heifers from them when we worked for Charlie Higgins. I was only acquainted with Earl. Good cowman and a very nice person. Yes... Barney and Earl Jensen Circle, MT.... They had one hell of a cowherd..3J Montana Dominos etc..... Higgins Bros at Ringling , MT? Another one I don't know about is Stan Lund at Reserve, MT My bad, sorry the tone of my reply. When I saw Jensen Bros first operation that came to mind was the ones from Kansas who I know definately are not out of business.  |
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Post by randy on Jun 15, 2016 9:32:39 GMT -6
Stone Ranch was precursor to Oregon Hereford Ranch. Just changed the signs. Oregon Hereford Ranch was the precursor to Lone Star... Doug and Don Bennett cherry picked pretty good at Stones... Doug Bennett partnered with Sam Friedman and went to Texas with the cows... Don kept a hand full of cows there at the old Stone Ranch. Don also was partners in a big feedlot just north of the old stone ranch.
TT herefords was Trayer and Thompson and then Thompson only.. They sold sets of cows to Howard Stone, Bob and Edna Harrell and others.. Then Bill Bennett bought the ranch and cows that were there... Changed the signs from TT to BB and they had a turn key place..
Peckenpaugh were in SD and bought some really good bulls.. Last I knew Margaret was still raising cattle..
Carlson Herefords had two of the strongest breeding bulls I ever saw... Arrow C Advance and L1 Domino 920501... Arrow C Advance came along when the frame race was starting and got left behind. CH Domino 439 was show bull sire of the year once and maybe twice. They bought him with Ron Baker for 6k at Coopers and Sold 1/2 interest to George Harris for 250K... he threw some breed changers and some cattle that sure worked..
Rock Creek was Ron Bakers son... Moved it from Ada MN to Eastern MT...
Green Gulch bought a great set of cows from Carlson's for 5k around and a sire or two to go along with cows they had. They had a family happening and sold to Sehorn in California... Sehorn got in trouble for some inside trader scam and got to spend time in one of the State institutions with free college... the cows sold at Shasta Livestock in Cottonwood, CA with no papers... I bought a group of those cows.
Bruce Orvis passed in 2010 and the family are still running it.
James Bright is running a Club calf operation with his step sons the Leo Bros. James and Cherie Carrabba (of club calf fame) were married in April. James had a bad accident falling from a haystack a couple of years back. James is still involved with the Bright family operations with Eddie, Bill and Virginia.
Spur cattle Co... Sam Moore... Sam had a unique operation in the Sand Hills of Nebraska. He won many club calf pens shows and even won a new truck for one of those. It was at his place that I first witnessed the spotted trait in Hereford cattle.
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