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Post by randy on Jun 18, 2016 19:27:36 GMT -6
Although no one has mentioned them in this forum I believe... Babbitt Ranches in AZ may be the most prolific Hereford breeding operation there is today.. The Hashknife Branded Cattle and Horses are something that needs to be looked at from many views... between the CO-Bar and Hashknife, your right. back when Lovell was still with the assn and he was helping me with the Manhattan Hereford Feeder Calf sales, he went down to Babbitts one fall when the weighed shipped all those thousands of straight hereford yrling steers to a buyer in Nebraska that was wanting to put em thru CHB when they were finished. was down there for like 4 or 5 days. anyway he told me as impressive as those steers were, and they were pretty impressive, the remuda was even better. Oh, and as far as I'm concerned Lovell was a damn good man and we could only wish all our staff eventually reach his level of understanding both the seedstock and commercial side of things. Yes Sir... Lovell Kuykendall was very much a golden gem for the Hereford breed. Willard Wolf is now working with Babbitt's shipping their cattle. He missed Harrell's Sale this year because he was in Az shipping their cattle.. |
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Post by bookcliff on Jun 18, 2016 19:39:56 GMT -6
Dave Hartman was still with 26 Bar in '96. we happened to share a cab one night at the World Hereford Conference when it was in Fort Collins that year.
Dad was tied right next to 26 Bar up on the Hill one year. He always talked about how friendly John Wayne was to everyone on the isle the couple days he was there and how if a bull took a flop and he was the nearest one, he'd grab the fork. however he said Wayne's sons were real pricks. I was too young to remember it bak then but every now and then dad and Whitey and Jitter (who generally traveled together) would get to talking about it. the other thing I remeber is one time dad was up at Charlie Kyd's in MT (dad had partnered with Charlie on a bull)looking at calves. anyway, about dinnertime John Wayne pulls into the drive, came into the house and had lunch with em like he was one of the crew. anyway dad got to asking Charlie about it and he told dad the when John Wayne wanted to disappear from the entire world for a couple of days he would come up to Charlies and go fishing or hunting.
If memory serves I beleive Cliff was at 26 Bar for just a couple of years straight outa college before he and Pat moved back to home ranch.
Oh and someone mentioned WHR earlier. Steve Price, the last manager when they were still in the purebred business, went to running a pretty good sized yearling operation on the Colorado/Wyoming border when the closed up shop in the late 90's. I see him every couple of years when he comes down to Denver to catch up.
As for Whitey Burns, he passed on a year or two ago.
Haven't seen Jitter in a number of years now, used to keep up on what he was diong and where he was at when Estelle was still alive and Marilyn was still bringing her to AHA functions. Matsovics still own the feedyard at Scandia that John bought a number of years ago and the last time I was by it that old semi and showtrailer that they got Jitter in the 70's was sitting there in the bonepile (but that was 7 or 8 years ago)
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Post by randy on Jun 18, 2016 20:10:18 GMT -6
Walter Bones?
Mill Iron Ranch?
Clair Parcell?
Fedderson Herefords?
Flint Hills Herefords? I was there and saw the HI Standard Lad 8Z calves....
Harper Herefords at Roundup,MT... Did he buy the complete Glenkirk herd?
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Post by George on Jun 18, 2016 20:46:27 GMT -6
Lee Campbell - Lee had several ranches, but the bulk of his registered Hereford herd was kept at his ranch near Dublin, TX. Tonight, I was eating at Granny Clark's restaurant in Dublin, enjoying their regular Saturday night "all-you-can-eat" Steak and Shrimp buffet, and Lee's former ranch manager, Rubin Kasper, came in with his daughter and her family. I don't know if anyone here knows Rubin, but he still looks pretty spry for a 92 year old.
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Post by guffeygal on Jun 18, 2016 21:40:40 GMT -6
We are about 5 miles south of Clair Parcel's old place. Clair died soon after we moved here. About 99 I think. Mrs. Parcel lives in Hays near one of their daughters. Jane sees her once or twice a year and she seems to be doing pretty well. Another daughter Kathy Bloom is County Agent at Liberal Kansas. She and her husband farm out there. Dan Parcel is with a big Greenhouse around Manhattan KS.
Cliff Copeland worked for some people out of Alburquerque I think their name was Doolittle, seems like ranch was around Watrous, between 26 Bar and going on their own.
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Post by randy on Jun 19, 2016 11:41:59 GMT -6
Les Hill Collbran CO?
Shovel Dot Herefords? Was that owned by Barney Buell?
Someone has to know the Ankony-Jack Cooper Story?
Someone please tell the George Ellis-Vernon Sanders Story... Spidel Sue...
How about the Pioneer Seeds Hereford herd.
Northern Pump Farms.... There has to be some stories there... They had their own B-24? Was that used as a spray plane?
Victorio Land and Cattle CO - Preuitt-Wray Herefords... I know a Grantham family that is connected to Victorio.It seems they have holdings all over the west..
Verlou Farms?
Little Beaver Creek Farms?
Omega Plantation- Gilfoil Herefords... Jim Gilfoil-Johnnie Gilfoil
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Post by randy on Jun 19, 2016 11:53:36 GMT -6
Bookcliff said "Haven't seen Jitter in a number of years now, used to keep up on what he was diong and where he was at when Estelle was still alive and Marilyn was still bringing her to AHA functions. Matsovics still own the feedyard at Scandia that John bought a number of years ago and the last time I was by it that old semi and showtrailer that they got Jitter in the 70's was sitting there in the bonepile (but that was 7 or 8 years ago)" Read more: herefordtalk.com/thread/2950/herds-longer#ixzz4C34Bjoql That was a snazzy little single axle Pete with a big motor and sanders. I have often wondered who built the trailer as it had 825-20 rubber. Lorrie Peterson and Quinta-Madison River Cattle Co also had similar trailers. I always wanted a rig like Jitter had. I had to settle for an International farm Truck with a cattle rack and tarp for a very long time or Dad's old 45'flat deck and the Autocar...lol |
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Post by bookcliff on Jun 19, 2016 16:14:19 GMT -6
Les Hill..........
Ran into one of his grandsons at BIF a couple of years ago, is an ag writer. anyway, he said there isn't hardly a cow left up in that Colburn country anymore.
Hills, Curriers, Grants and all the rest are all pretty well gone and so is the cow culture that used to drive the Western Slope according to him.
As a little kid I got to go on one of the last years when everyone who summered up in that Colburn county gathered everything, pooled em together and drove them down into the Grand Valley (the high desert around Grand Junction Colorado) to wintering grounds instead of hauling them home. took three days, about 2-3K hereford pairs trailed down that mountain highway for damn near 50 miles. got some pictures my mom took somewhere around here, Herfs strecthed out for miles.
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Post by guffeygal on Jun 19, 2016 16:24:57 GMT -6
The trailer OXO had in early 70's was a Royal Coach. Made in Iowa I think. The first I was around it they were pulling it with a tilt cab Ford but soon upgraded.
Northern Pump :Odell Gelvin was Herdsman before my time. He came to Oklahoma to Ogeechee Farms Jack Kurtz and Buddy Byram always seemed to enjoy life with the halter cattle. Kenny Epper's had the Carloads. Didn't Kenny get killed in a car wreck not too long ago.
Jack is a member of The Former 26 Bar Fraternity. He stayed in that area and worked at the saw mill in Eagar for a while. His brother Dale was managing Mullendore Ranch when E.C. was murdered. Par-Ker Ranch sold prairie hay to Northern Pump. Went out on a box car. Born's would trade a semi load of really nice straw for a load of prairie hay and they did the hauling.
Also sold hay to David Largent when they were in Texas, T.A. Haggard in Missouri when Jitter worked for them and McLean-Hill when Francis Hill was involved with Lee McLean.
That reminds me of another ranch. Honey Creek Ranch at Grove Oklahoma. Think they made quite a bit of Hereford History in 40's through 60's. One of the first Million dollar sales I think.
Paul and Jack Stidham both spent some time there. Dixon family (Of zero turn mower fame) owned it the second time around. Francis Hill Managed it a while. One of his quotes about their cattle"They are all good. Just some better than others."
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Post by randy on Jun 19, 2016 20:12:38 GMT -6
Randy Hill... Les Hill's son was my AI rep for a couple of years... he is now the manager of Cache Valley Select Sires in Logan, UT.
Charlie Descheemaker was the judge of ROM Show at the Golden Spike Arena Ogden, UT early 70's... There were several of us there from Idaho and it was tradition for the women to pack a lunch for show day. (those women could feed an army from a cardboard box and a cooler) There was a room in the cattle barn with a very long table and a lounge area at the far end with a shopmade big wood stove. Mom and the other women had lunch laid out on the table and had invited Darris Cummings, Russ Nelson, Jack and Ed Orr, Rod Jean and Tammy Hinman, to join us. Unbeknownst to all but women getting lunch ready ..mom and Jean Harrison had fixed Charlie Descheemaker a plate and he was sitting up in the lounge area when we sat down. As lunch went on there were talking about the placing from the morning classes. Darris Cummings popped off and said" What the hell was Charlie thinking when he placed one of the classes... My mom having little filter said "Darris why don't you ask him. He is sitting on the other side of the wood stove"... Charlie was done with his lunch and got up and walked out the door saying. "Thanks for the lunch..Have a nice day"...
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Post by bookcliff on Jun 19, 2016 21:09:47 GMT -6
Randy Hill... Les Hill's son was my AI rep for a couple of years... he is now the manager of Cache Valley Select Sires in Logan, UT. Charlie Descheemaker was the judge of ROM Show at the Golden Spike Arena Ogden, UT early 70's... There were several of us there from Idaho and it was tradition for the women to pack a lunch for show day. (those women could feed an army from a cardboard box and a cooler) There was a room in the cattle barn with a very long table and a lounge area at the far end with a shopmade big wood stove. Mom and the other women had lunch laid out on the table and had invited Darris Cummings, Russ Nelson, Jack and Ed Orr, Rod Jean and Tammy Hinman, to join us. Unbeknownst to all but women getting lunch ready ..mom and Jean Harrison had fixed Charlie Descheemaker a plate and he was sitting up in the lounge area when we sat down. As lunch went on there were talking about the placing from the morning classes. Darris Cummings popped off and said" What the hell was Charlie thinking when he placed one of the classes... My mom having little filter said "Darris why don't you ask him. He is sitting on the other side of the wood stove"... Charlie was done with his lunch and got up and walked out the door saying. "Thanks for the lunch..Have a nice day"... the SPIKE.......... dad had the reserve bull and champion hfr there in '69 Ray Forbes did the sorting that year, he was one of the Baughman Ranches unit managers. This was right before Baughmans built the facility for their sale that is now Rocky Mountain Sire Services out side of Denver. Ivan and Norman Kanak ran their polled operation at the time just north of Russell and Ray ran the horned division up north of Waldo (and when Baughmans hung it up with the tax code changes of '72, it was bought by a group of investors and became Post Rock Hereford Ranch till in the late 80's when Ray bought em out and went mostly commerical with the cows, the outfit sold about 20 years ago when he died). anyway the mormons generally frowned on the "typical" barn party so he had mom get coffee and donuts for em. speaking of barn parties after the show at the Spike, a forget which year it was about the same era a mormon outfit won the show and had didn't have a barn party.....except for the mormons in a room somewhere off in the complex somewhere---anyway Whitey Burns found out where it was and crashed it, grabbed some of the bottles came back to the stalls and and he and Jitter proceeded to throw a barn party for everyone else. one of my first memories of the Spike was we just got cattle to tieouts and were headed thru the alleys to got back back to the hotel and Arlo was jsut getting in, this was back when he was pulling Angus. anyway they unloaded something like 25 head. when we got to the barn the next morning 4-5AMish, they were all set up andhe and his crew were just finishing up off the wash rack and starting to feed --- for 6 year old that left quite an impression. darris cummings......when he was pulling a two year-old that was getting kinda sluggish he used to hand breed him to a anything that was in heat at home but would put a showhalter on em when he did, then at a show, he only put the showhalter on right before the bull went into the ring and boy did that bull travel right out....since he thought he was giong to breed something. Ken and Marilyn Stephens spent their honeymoon working for Daris in 74 or 75 at Denver. anyway Darris had a full string on the Hill and his carload in the yards, Ken always says it was fun, Marilyn says something quite different...... Rod Hinman and Jack Orr......boy does that bring back a flood on memories dont leave out Don Norgren, Bart and Mary Strang, Redds and who could forget Teddy Morgan (as much as most of us would like too) |
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Post by randy on Jun 19, 2016 22:24:20 GMT -6
Talking about Arlo... Last time I saw him was on a trail in the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness in Idaho west of Darby, MT. He was packing in on an Elk Hunt with Don Jacklin, Denny Washington and others... Strange mix of people in that group...Had his brother in law working for me a couple of years back and he said Arlo was living near Hardin, MT.
The Golden Spike was always an interesting show. One had to pay attention as there. You never knew what might happen. There was a room upstairs on the south end of the arena that the Mormons had their party in. We had our own party lol....
We would come from the Cow Palace back to Ogden and then hurry to get home, unload and catch a flight to American Royal.. Some years when we had steers we would go to The Pacific International in Portland...
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Post by randy on Jun 19, 2016 22:32:06 GMT -6
Troy Kinder? Is some of that family still in the ranching business?
Don Dennis at Grady, OK
Skeeter Dennis at Oscar, Ok... I believe Skeeter was living in Ft Worth???
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Post by moon on Jun 20, 2016 8:55:13 GMT -6
Spoke to Don's wife a few years back, and the ranch was still going. Drove him and Fred Ferrell around town and to the Airport when AHA had an ROM in my home town in early 80's. Heard a lot of tales that day. C.A. Collins married Troy's daughter, Judy, and their daughter, Christy, is going great guns in the club calf world. She puts on a huge video/frozen sale in Denver, which has been a big success. It is quite a production and she does top flight sale management and promotion. Christy's brother married one of Charlie and Darla's Moore daughters, and they have been on the ranch in Oklahoma for several years. Saw C.A. and Judy in Denver a few years back, and had lunch with them upstairs. That whole family has a lot of integrity.
I hold Willard Wolf and Lovell Kuykendall in high regard as well. Willard gave me some good advice many times, several breeders in his territory told me he did above and beyond for them. Lovell always, in my opinion, did his very best for the breed and breeders. Barney Buell's Shovel Dot is all commercial now the last I knew, saw Homer at Spencer's production sales during the last decade, and Homer and his brother received several awards for their operation either through NCBA or BIF in the past few years.
The Oklahoma Mullendore ranch was featured in AHJ in early 70's or a bit earlier, no photos, but completely illustrated with Tom Phillips' artwork. I remember being around a group of Oklahoma breeders in late seventies and the Mullendore ranch came up. One of the most remarkable stories, claimed as true, I heard was when one of the Mullendores ( age 20 something children ) got up one morning and decided to have a spur of the moment pool party. So they hop in the family plane that morning, flew to Dallas, went to Neiman-Marcus, bought the latest new swimsuits, and then flew back for the party that evening.
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Post by bookcliff on Jun 20, 2016 11:20:09 GMT -6
Saw Arlo 2 years ago @ Denver, he came into my pen and we sat and reminised for a while, he was running the yard crew for Hoffman's that year
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Post by kent on Aug 10, 2016 18:21:41 GMT -6
Forgive me if these were addressed and I missed it:
George Werth-
sites.google.com/site/ggtcattle/Founders-Page
sites.google.com/site/ggtcattle/home
We went to their sale in the mid 80's. I remember Herefords in their catalog. Salers were selling well, so we decided to AI our heifers to the 3000 pound Salers bull Kardinal. Calves did well. Hit the ground running. Sometimes didn't want to stop. They are selling quite a few Angus now.
Alfalfa Lawn Farms- Has sold to a local Rancher-Farmer. I sold them a bull this spring. Mostly Angus, but there are a few Polled Hereford cows still there. Got to tour the old show barn. The height of the pens was pretty surprising. You could tell it was something special at one time.
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Post by guffeygal on Aug 16, 2016 11:17:16 GMT -6
We were on the old Alfalfa Lawn place yesterday. Kansas Livestock Assn- K-State Ranch Field Day. Now belongs to Froetschner Family. Hereford cows to a son in law who is Leon Steffen's Grandson. The Sr. Mr. Froetschner talked about making a box car trip with Joe Lewis to The Cow Palace Show in the 50's. Still a neat place and show barn in good shape. Johnny told me once that it was patterned after the "Newer" barn at Turner Ranch. Good to see the ranch in good hands. They had a video and scrap book on display. Joe's older daughter was in attendance and the Lewis Family was recognized.
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Post by bookcliff on Aug 16, 2016 14:18:47 GMT -6
Joe's granddaughter and her husband are in the shorthorn and clubby steer business. My favorite memory of Joe is at a steer show 30some years ago. A young man had one the 4-h steer show in the morning but was reserve to the steer that was reserve in the 4-h show later that day in the ffa district show. Anyway that young man went up to Joe as he was leaving the ring and started bitching about it to joe. What both didn't know was the mic was still on. Anyway in classic joe Lewis fashion he says, son your sob just didn't look as good this afternoon.
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Post by randy on Aug 19, 2016 18:52:39 GMT -6
Joe's granddaughter and her husband are in the shorthorn and clubby steer business. My favorite memory of Joe is at a steer show 30some years ago. A young man had one the 4-h steer show in the morning but was reserve to the steer that was reserve in the 4-h show later that day in the ffa district show. Anyway that young man went up to Joe as he was leaving the ring and started bitching about it to joe. What both didn't know was the mic was still on. Anyway in classic joe Lewis fashion he says, son your sob just didn't look as good this afternoon. I loved being around Joe Lewis... |
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Post by bookcliff on Aug 22, 2016 17:32:25 GMT -6
Joe's granddaughter and her husband are in the shorthorn and clubby steer business. My favorite memory of Joe is at a steer show 30some years ago. A young man had one the 4-h steer show in the morning but was reserve to the steer that was reserve in the 4-h show later that day in the ffa district show. Anyway that young man went up to Joe as he was leaving the ring and started bitching about it to joe. What both didn't know was the mic was still on. Anyway in classic joe Lewis fashion he says, son your sob just didn't look as good this afternoon. I loved being around Joe Lewis... another Joe Lewis story, back in the early 80's joe was judging the 4-H steer show at Denver. anyway artificial tail fins were just starting to become the fashion. the first class comes in the ring, circles and all set up. then Joe walks down the line smashing the tail fin on ever calf who had em flat. then he goes back to the microphone and proceeds to tell everyone that he thinks this is the dumbest damn fitting trend he's ever seen and nobody better come in the ring the rest of the day with one or their headed straight to the bottom of the class. man was their complete chaos in the makeup area in a frantic dash to get em off the steers in the next class. |
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Post by guffeygal on Aug 25, 2016 19:42:46 GMT -6
I was always in awe how Alfalfa Lawn had the show circuit so organized especially moving from one show to the next. The fans went on brackets on the trailer, show boxes had canvas covers and I think went in boxes under the tandem truck. Everything had it's place. We did well to get everything in the truck and the door shut. Their exhibit was always neat and presentable.
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Post by Glenn on Aug 29, 2016 13:28:35 GMT -6
Thorp Herefords is another one I see lots of big ads from in my old magazines. What is their story/demise?
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Post by btlrupert on Nov 26, 2016 13:06:11 GMT -6
Recovering from knee replacement so playing on Hereford talk. Does anyone know if their is anyone still raising the old Clayton Numode cattle that Mr. Burris bred in New Mexico?
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Post by Glenn on Nov 26, 2016 14:51:48 GMT -6
Get well soon!!! Hopefully someone knows.
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Post by postoak1 on Nov 28, 2016 4:17:38 GMT -6
What ever happened to Nunnally Herefords in Georgia?
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