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Post by jayh on Feb 8, 2020 19:02:46 GMT -6
I know most of you dont give a damn about show ring but I was wondering how those steers were supposedly bred?
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Post by larso on Feb 9, 2020 3:53:24 GMT -6
I don’t know anything about the steers breeding although I will say he looked more Hereford than a lot of supposed Hereford bulls I’ve seen recently but what a great result for the young man from Texas. Wether he did all the work or got a hand I wish him all the best for the future and I would suggest he will remain for ever loyal to the breed.
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Post by George on Feb 9, 2020 10:01:47 GMT -6
I haven't heard anything about the genetic makeup of the Reserve Champion, but the Grand Champion appears to be a Fakeford that goes back to the "look like" Hereford club calf sires like "Made Right".
I found this quote on another forum in a thread regarding this Steer Show:
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Post by jayh on Feb 9, 2020 10:57:40 GMT -6
I haven't heard anything about the genetic makeup of the Reserve Champion, but the Grand Champion appears to be a Fakeford that goes back to the "look like" Hereford club calf sires like "Made Right". I found this quote on another forum in a thread regarding this Steer Show: I was wondering about that. Thanks George. |
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Post by timbernt on Feb 9, 2020 23:15:23 GMT -6
I have been waiting for someone to question why Bucholtz gave $300000 for a steer. The answer is he will be cloned and the clones will be born with testicles. Bucholtz will have the most current Hereford show genetics in Texas.
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Post by jayh on Feb 11, 2020 22:29:26 GMT -6
I have been waiting for someone to question why Bucholtz gave $300000 for a steer. The answer is he will be cloned and the clones will be born with testicles. Bucholtz will have the most current Hereford show genetics in Texas. U think so? |
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Post by guffeygal on Feb 12, 2020 7:26:43 GMT -6
I have been waiting for someone to question why Bucholtz gave $300000 for a steer. The answer is he will be cloned and the clones will be born with testicles. Bucholtz will have the most current Hereford show genetics in Texas. What kind of cells do they start with to clone? We read where the steer will be where the young exhibitor will be able to visit him. Take it that means he is going to east Texas. Does anyone have a link to his pedigree? Have seen "Lombardi" referred to as his sire. |
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Post by George on Feb 12, 2020 8:43:18 GMT -6
I have been waiting for someone to question why Bucholtz gave $300000 for a steer. The answer is he will be cloned and the clones will be born with testicles. Bucholtz will have the most current Hereford show genetics in Texas. What kind of cells do they start with to clone? We read where the steer will be where the young exhibitor will be able to visit him. Take it that means he is going to east Texas. Does anyone have a link to his pedigree? Have seen "Lombardi" referred to as his sire. I had heard that "Matador" was his sire, who goes back to "Made Right" - one of those non registrable "Fakeford" club calf sires. |
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Post by timbernt on Feb 12, 2020 12:57:46 GMT -6
Cartilage is the most primordial tissue in the body so they harvest a piece of ear cartilage, subject it to electrical and chemical stimulation to make those cells think they are germinal cells.
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Post by George on Feb 12, 2020 13:08:05 GMT -6
What kind of cells do they start with to clone? We read where the steer will be where the young exhibitor will be able to visit him. Take it that means he is going to east Texas. Does anyone have a link to his pedigree? Have seen "Lombardi" referred to as his sire. I had heard that "Matador" was his sire, who goes back to "Made Right" - one of those non registrable "Fakeford" club calf sires. "Matador" is listed as a TH carrier. Does that give anyone an idea what his genetic makeup might contain? |
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Post by Glenn on Feb 12, 2020 15:19:00 GMT -6
Shorthorn and Maine Anjou mainly.
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Post by jjbcattleco on Feb 14, 2020 11:57:45 GMT -6
I have been waiting for someone to question why Bucholtz gave $300000 for a steer. The answer is he will be cloned and the clones will be born with testicles. Bucholtz will have the most current Hereford show genetics in Texas. LOL What??? Steer goes to the zoo for a year and then to a plate. |
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Post by strojanherefords on Feb 14, 2020 23:32:27 GMT -6
I have been waiting for someone to question why Bucholtz gave $300000 for a steer. The answer is he will be cloned and the clones will be born with testicles. Bucholtz will have the most current Hereford show genetics in Texas. I question what kind of life lessons giving a kid $300,000 teaches. |
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Post by George on Feb 15, 2020 0:11:08 GMT -6
I have been waiting for someone to question why Bucholtz gave $300000 for a steer. The answer is he will be cloned and the clones will be born with testicles. Bucholtz will have the most current Hereford show genetics in Texas. I question what kind of life lessons giving a kid $300,000 teaches. In his interviews, he says he is going to split the money with his little brother, use it for their college educations, and then take what is left and start a ranch of their own. Everything I have seen indicates this young man and his family are held in high regard - by the folks living in their rural community and their "competitors" in the show calf sector. I am going to bet that this isn't the last time folks are going to see this youngster and/or his younger brother in the winner's circle at a major Texas steer show. |
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Post by timbernt on Feb 15, 2020 7:16:47 GMT -6
What part of the $300000 does the exhibitor actually take home?
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Post by George on Feb 15, 2020 8:44:03 GMT -6
What part of the $300000 does the exhibitor actually take home? At Fort Worth, the junior exhibitor gets ALL the money from the sale of their animals. Other shows in Texas limit the money received by the exhibitor and require the rest of the selling price be put in a scholarship fund. No idea how those are distributed or who manages them. And it wouldn't surprise me if the IRS took 20% of that $300K off the top and what is actually owed settled up at the end of the tax year. |
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Post by George on Feb 18, 2020 10:26:57 GMT -6
If the reports that I have seen regarding the Reserve Champion are correct, he also was a descendant of the Fakeford bull "Made Right".
Seeing all these Registered Hereford breeders celebrate this Fort Worth championship as a victory for the BREED has been amusing to me!
But, considering the genetic state of the mainstream North American Hereford breed today, what could possibly be a better representative than a Fakeford?
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Post by jayh on Feb 18, 2020 10:46:18 GMT -6
If the reports that I have seen regarding the Reserve Champion are correct, he also was a descendant of the Fakeford bull "Made Right". Seeing all these Registered Hereford breeders celebrate this Fort Worth championship as a victory for the BREED has been amusing to me! But, considering the genetic state of the mainstream North American Hereford breed today, what could possibly be a better representative than a Fakeford? George u are correct. Mainstream people only see the color and assume it's a Hereford. Might as well take what we can |
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Post by guffeygal on Mar 31, 2020 20:05:31 GMT -6
We were very surprised that there was NO mention of the Grand and Reserve steers at Ft. Worth being Herefords in the April Hereford World. I have heard rumors of some controversy. Any of you folks on the main grapevine know anything about such? If there was any reference in the World We sure missed it.
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Mar 31, 2020 21:34:42 GMT -6
We were very surprised that there was NO mention of the Grand and Reserve steers at Ft. Worth being Herefords in the April Hereford World. I have heard rumors of some controversy. Any of you folks on the main grapevine know anything about such? If there was any reference in the World We sure missed it. I don't remember them doing any reports or listing winners of steer shows in years. Animal is still listed has champion on the Fort Worth website. |
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Post by guffeygal on Apr 1, 2020 11:31:55 GMT -6
We were very surprised that there was NO mention of the Grand and Reserve steers at Ft. Worth being Herefords in the April Hereford World. I have heard rumors of some controversy. Any of you folks on the main grapevine know anything about such? If there was any reference in the World We sure missed it. I don't remember them doing any reports or listing winners of steer shows in years. Animal is still listed has champion on the Fort Worth website. Have Not been any Grand Champions at major shows in said several years. Thought this would be of note. |
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Apr 1, 2020 12:15:53 GMT -6
I don't remember them doing any reports or listing winners of steer shows in years. Animal is still listed has champion on the Fort Worth website. Have Not been any Grand Champions at major shows in said several years. Thought this would be of note. You would think so, they have no interest in market steers. |
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Post by jjbcattleco on Apr 2, 2020 11:02:55 GMT -6
Steers weren't registered, on this thread we have a "why aren't the celebrated" on another there is a likely registered pair being criticized. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Apr 2, 2020 18:23:55 GMT -6
Steers weren't registered, on this thread we have a "why aren't the celebrated" on another there is a likely registered pair being criticized. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. don't think it's a case of "why aren't the celebrated" it's more like...thought they would try to take some credit, whatever the steers breeding is, it's being recognised as a Hereford by the media |
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Post by guffeygal on Apr 30, 2020 6:05:24 GMT -6
New May-June Hereford World yesterday and still no mention of Ft. Worth Champion Steers. World Hereford Conference Report was mostly about how well our Juniors did. Did say genetics were discussed.
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