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Post by Carlos (frmaiz) on May 29, 2016 15:43:35 GMT -6
There are a few herds around here that breed what may be called the Traditional type, that is without influence of American genetics. My little experience with 6 heifers I bought was not very successful. They were beautiful cows, too small and with slow growth; I had to breed them at 24 months and after two years none was left in the herd. I think that this Traditionals are just a sample of herds of the 50's and 60's and have many virtues of the pure breed but lack frame and growth. Anyway, I enjoy the picture.
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Post by jayh on May 29, 2016 16:44:06 GMT -6
Yes looks traditional. My experience doesn't have merit yet. I have a smaller traditional bull but have crossed with some smaller framed current cows and doing ok. Great no. Will know more in another yr.
Like the depth of those cows.
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Post by strojanherefords on May 29, 2016 18:47:52 GMT -6
Did you try to breed her to calve at? In spite of less growth, she looks like she should have been able to breed as a yearling.
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Post by Carlos (frmaiz) on May 29, 2016 19:02:05 GMT -6
Did you try to breed her to calve at? In spite of less growth, she looks like she should have been able to breed as a yearling. It's not my cow. A picture from a "traditional" breeder. The heifers were bought from a different herd and at 14 months they weighed around 250 kg, compared to the 340-350 kgs we usually reach with our own bred ones.
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Post by tartancowgirl on May 30, 2016 15:06:33 GMT -6
Beautiful cow and calf - lovely picture. I'd love to see them in the flesh to see how they compare with ours. That looks like good grass for them, better than ours maybe? What happened to the ones you had? We are still trying to decide what is the best age to mate ours. The Traditional breeders in UK mostly breed to calve at 3, but it seems this attitude is becoming really outdated. I think ours ought to manage breeding at 18 - 21 months with no extra feeding (at this age we would expect our heifers to be around 400kg, which is the breeding weight recommended in UK). If we tried breeding earlier than that I think we'd have to give them a bit more care and feeding and might have more calving problems, or more likely difficulty getting in calf again - this is presumably one of the areas where more modern genetics has led to greatest economic progress.
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Post by strojanherefords on Jun 3, 2016 15:31:39 GMT -6
I don't like calving during multiple times of the year it makes management difficult. With the understanding that a good portion of the heifers wont get bred, why just put the yearling heifers with the bull during your normal breeding season. The way I look at it, a heifer calving at two but not rebreeding is no different than calving heifers at three. A heifer calving at two should at least be able to have her second calf at four years old. It costs nothing to turn the bull out and the ones that wind up calving at two will be your best.
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Post by tartancowgirl on Jun 3, 2016 16:35:38 GMT -6
Definitely something to think about.
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Post by btlrupert on Jun 12, 2016 22:05:45 GMT -6
The group here this weekend are utilizing grass fed genetics from Sc that apparently work well. We were very glad. Nice folks and we plan to come to Argentina to visit their operations per their invitation.
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Post by postoak1 on Jun 13, 2016 3:07:40 GMT -6
The group here this weekend are utilizing grass fed genetics from Sc that apparently work well. We were very glad. Nice folks and we plan to come to Argentina to visit their operations per their invitation. When you go to Argentina, drink some Malbec and eat some steak for me please.
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