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Post by Glenn on Nov 4, 2010 8:44:09 GMT -6
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Post by Glenn on Nov 4, 2010 8:45:08 GMT -6
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Post by rockmillsfarm on Nov 4, 2010 17:24:22 GMT -6
Wouldn't mind having the 4119 cow or the 4230 cow. Also like 9805 and 9825, they're a little different type, but I like that look.
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Post by Glenn on Nov 4, 2010 17:41:53 GMT -6
200, 7815 and 8251 not bad (well none are bad!).
I am going to call this weekend and see when full catalog will be ready.
Some of the year numbers on these pictures along with the # calves weaned makes it seem like a lot of them skipped AT LEAST 1 calf.
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Post by rockmillsfarm on Nov 4, 2010 19:36:28 GMT -6
I would check the numbers with the AHA data, I've seen quite a few "typo's" in sale catalogs. Sounds like you're interested in buying a couple of them.
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Post by Glenn on Nov 5, 2010 13:48:19 GMT -6
I'd like to go to the sale, I'd have to do some serious schedule rearranging to get it done. I will get the catalog and give it a thorough look before I decide one way or the other.
And also I don't expect any "bargains".
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Post by rockmillsfarm on Nov 5, 2010 18:06:31 GMT -6
Thought you were like George and building a herd free of L1's.
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Post by jayh on Nov 5, 2010 20:06:55 GMT -6
I would love to go but I wont be able to. I am building on some polled cows but I like horned Line ones. I have a polled Achiever granddaughter that just calved and it looks like her heifer calf will be a keeper at this stage ( 21 days old)
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Post by Glenn on Nov 9, 2010 9:53:48 GMT -6
4230 is very nicely put together.
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Post by George on Nov 9, 2010 18:01:07 GMT -6
I sent an e-mail to Jamisons for a catalog and asking about the vidoes. I got a reply today that there will be about 100 individual videos but not all the lots will be videoed like the K&B sale was. So, attending this sale is probably necessary.
Without looking further, the 0212 cow on the front page of the brochure looks good for an older cow. I dislike the horns so much, I'd probably focus on just buying weaning age heifers if I went to the sale. There'd be a lot less stress getting them dehorned.
George
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Post by George on Nov 9, 2010 18:26:15 GMT -6
Speaking of Line 1s, I thought it kind of neat that a Cooper bred bull was Reserve Champion at the Royal. It's been a while since a straight Line 1 has done really well in the showring.  George |
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Post by George on Nov 9, 2010 18:28:54 GMT -6
Some of the year numbers on these pictures along with the # calves weaned makes it seem like a lot of them skipped AT LEAST 1 calf. I'm betting that is because they haven't got the 2010 calves' weaning data recorded yet. George |
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Post by Glenn on Nov 10, 2010 9:19:28 GMT -6
That was my original thought: To buy 5-10 heifer calves, but I imagine they will be too high for my tastes, especially if you went to trying to pick a specific sire which is what I'd try to do.
Then I thought maybe one of the old matrons as a flush prospect. Who knows. I probably will miss because I have some appointments on the 8th of December.
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Post by hoekland on Nov 10, 2010 9:52:12 GMT -6
Wouldn't mind having the 4119 cow or the 4230 cow. Also like 9805 and 9825, they're a little different type, but I like that look. I agree with your picks, Paul. What I fail to understand is howcome an established herd have so much variance in type and even some complete off-types? |
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Post by Glenn on Nov 10, 2010 10:29:38 GMT -6
Just a guess but they are strictly a "performance" herd, with breeding decisions by EPD and ratio and less emphasis on TYPE.
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Post by hoekland on Nov 10, 2010 14:11:06 GMT -6
Just a guess but they are strictly a "performance" herd, with breeding decisions by EPD and ratio and less emphasis on TYPE. Thats probably the case, but most of my better bull buyers actually want to see the cowherd and I'll be damned if I show them an off-type cow as the dam of their potential next herdsire. |
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Post by rockmillsfarm on Nov 10, 2010 23:25:39 GMT -6
Wouldn't mind having the 4119 cow or the 4230 cow. Also like 9805 and 9825, they're a little different type, but I like that look. I agree with your picks, Paul. What I fail to understand is howcome an established herd have so much variance in type and even some complete off-types? Maybe I'm just not up on L1's well enough, but I find it a little weird that a lot of his prominent sires are Cooper or Holden. I don't see them using his breeding, maybe I'm not paying enough attention. I would have thought with that many head he would have been able to keep it a little more "in house". Surely that would have made a more consistent type to work with. For what they'll sell for, it would seem a lot of folks don't care. |
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Post by George on Nov 12, 2010 20:59:09 GMT -6
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Post by George on Nov 14, 2010 9:29:24 GMT -6
Looking at the reference sires and pictures of some of the cows, I'm reminded how much I like Pedretti bred bulls.
When I looked at Ken Coleman's herd a few years back, a lot of my favorites in his herd were by Pedretti bred bulls.
If I remember correctly, Ken told me that the Pedretti cow herd were all pretty big cattle, though.
Ken's been pretty well absent from the chat boards lately! He usually posts some pictures over at Ranchers regularly, but I haven't seen any lately. Looking at the web-cams, there doesn't appear to be much snow in the high country yet.
George
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Post by hoekland on Nov 14, 2010 13:56:05 GMT -6
Who is Pedretti?
Also who's prefixes is GB, DH and RH?
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Post by Glenn on Nov 14, 2010 14:35:36 GMT -6
Gino Pedritti is a line one breeder from California. His prefix is GB.
DH is Debtor Herefords in Alabama
and RH is probably Rutt Herefords in Nebraska.
All three are Line One Breeders.
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Post by Glenn on Nov 14, 2010 14:36:56 GMT -6
I invited Ken to join here. I can understand his hesitance at joining boards. I do hope he joins though.
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Post by col1domino on Nov 15, 2010 9:26:55 GMT -6
I invited Ken to join here. I can understand his hesitance at joining boards. I do hope he joins though. OK I'm on now what??  I just have to try this. SHIT, SHIT and SHIT!!! Oh hell yes. ;D |
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Post by hoekland on Nov 15, 2010 9:51:21 GMT -6
I invited Ken to join here. I can understand his hesitance at joining boards. I do hope he joins though. OK I'm on now what?? I just have to try this. SHIT, SHIT and SHIT!!! Oh hell yes. ;D Shit! I never thought of that! |
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Post by Glenn on Nov 15, 2010 9:53:28 GMT -6
I invited Ken to join here. I can understand his hesitance at joining boards. I do hope he joins though. OK I'm on now what?? I just have to try this. SHIT, SHIT and SHIT!!! Oh hell yes. ;D Well if nothing else some wildlife pictures are always good and popular! I know that you are very good friends with Gordon Jamison, but maybe you could give us some insights into his program that a more casual observer (like myself) wouldn't know. I'd also like to know your opinion on which sire group of cows/heifers might be good. I really like the 286M bulls every year in the catalogs but don't know too much about the females he sires. Welcome aboard! and Thanks for joining! |
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