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Post by kclark on Sept 17, 2013 9:37:30 GMT -6
Anyone see anything interesting?
I live less than an hour from the sale and may not go. The cows and heifers that I do like they have bred to bulls that I don't. Then again I may find a bargain. Doubtful, but you never know!
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Post by Glenn on Sept 17, 2013 9:47:13 GMT -6
If you went to Star Lake, you've already seen them sell once.
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Post by George on Sept 17, 2013 10:32:26 GMT -6
I wouldn't drive across the street to attend this one.
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Post by bookcliff on Sept 17, 2013 10:51:38 GMT -6
I wouldn't drive across the street to attend this one. a handful of us here last fall expressed our "displeasure" with the SL program before it's dispersal and it got kinda ugly before, so I for one am just giong to leave it that George has summed it up pretty well.
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Post by ellettherefords on Sept 17, 2013 11:08:04 GMT -6
Whats going on that they are dispersing this herd again, is it mismanagement or on the cows end.
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Post by whiteface on Sept 17, 2013 11:10:52 GMT -6
I'm not the best investment manager. I've bought my share of over priced cows, but why invest all that money and then turn around and sell it when SL's name has been run through the mud so much? I remember seeing some of those lots sell for $20,000+. Wonder if they'll bring $5,000 to $10,000 at that now! Wouldn't they have been better off taking that stock they bought and infused some other stuff into it and created their own "brand" or program instead of becoming SL2?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 11:49:11 GMT -6
I'm not the best investment manager. I've bought my share of over priced cows, but why invest all that money and then turn around and sell it when SL's name has been run through the mud so much? I remember seeing some of those lots sell for $20,000+. Wonder if they'll bring $5,000 to $10,000 at that now! Wouldn't they have been better off taking that stock they bought and infused some other stuff into it and created their own "brand" or program instead of becoming SL2? The phrase, "hook, line and sinker" comes to my mind in this situation.
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Post by bookcliff on Sept 17, 2013 11:54:24 GMT -6
I'm not the best investment manager. I've bought my share of over priced cows, but why invest all that money and then turn around and sell it when SL's name has been run through the mud so much? I remember seeing some of those lots sell for $20,000+. Wonder if they'll bring $5,000 to $10,000 at that now! Wouldn't they have been better off taking that stock they bought and infused some other stuff into it and created their own "brand" or program instead of becoming SL2? The phrase, "hook, line and sinker" comes to my mind in this situation. along with the phrase "I told you so"
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Post by George on Sept 17, 2013 12:09:14 GMT -6
mlcherefords.com/Interesting website that they have - Whitetails? And what language is that in the descriptions of those bulls? Maybe Klingon?
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Post by Glenn on Sept 17, 2013 12:10:34 GMT -6
WT heck? Holy Moly that is crazy???
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Post by rockmillsherefords on Sept 17, 2013 13:34:06 GMT -6
mlcherefords.com/Interesting website that they have - Whitetails? And what language is that in the descriptions of those bulls? Maybe Klingon? I believe it's Latin.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 18:38:34 GMT -6
Here's the kiss of death: I like Lot 100
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Post by clearfork on Sept 17, 2013 18:57:55 GMT -6
I know many of you don't care for SL but I am happy with the bull I bought. He is actually a son of lot 91 in the Moss sale and S109. He collected well, giving just over 400 units on 3 collections this past May. Then I turned him out the first week of June with about a dozen cows as a yearling. I brought him in two weeks before the Ohio State Fair and placed 3rd in class behind the grand and reserve. The judge said all he needed was more condition but I think for only being fed for two days he did pretty good. I'm not saying some of SL's practices or methods were good but I'm happy. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Post by clearfork on Sept 17, 2013 18:58:52 GMT -6
Sorry he was fed for two weeks, not two days. My mistake.
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Post by jerseymike on Sept 17, 2013 19:03:30 GMT -6
The fact that he thanked the Blins and Montie for the selling him on a bunch of BS and bad investments makes me wanna vomit. I guess you have to keep up a good face til you unload.
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Post by George on Sept 17, 2013 20:02:55 GMT -6
The fact that he thanked the Blins and Montie for the selling him on a bunch of BS and bad investments makes me wanna vomit. I guess you have to keep up a good face til you unload. Yeah, my last "investment" with the Blins and Montie Soules just cost me around $5 grand- and nothing to show for it. I know your experience was just as painful, if not more, Mike. I don't know John Moss but I have empathy for him. I can only imagine that his losses will likely dwarf what ours was. The feeling that he probably has - like waking up realizing that he's been in a 4 year long orgy in which he was the one that has been constantly bent over...and then ol' Montie just took his "shortie" on down the road to see how bad he can screw up the red,white, and roan breed.
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Post by jerseymike on Sept 18, 2013 9:11:21 GMT -6
I feel terrible for the guy. I was standing next to him most of the sale. The fact that he thanked them when you know that cant be his true feelings just sucks. At least I hope its not his true feelings. Ours was a lesson learned. His could be a lifetime salary for most people.
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Post by kclark on Sept 18, 2013 12:07:15 GMT -6
Several of the SL cattle are also labelled MKS. Is that Montie Soules or Max Stotz?
Disappointed in their bull selection since the SL sale. All the embryos are either to SL bulls I really don't care for or to bulls with zero history. Also noticed a few first calf three yr olds and some defect carriers. sound familiar? There are two or three heifers I might go preview since going to Stillwater tomorrow anyway.
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Post by jayh on Sept 18, 2013 18:51:30 GMT -6
I know many of you don't care for SL but I am happy with the bull I bought. He is actually a son of lot 91 in the Moss sale and S109. He collected well, giving just over 400 units on 3 collections this past May. Then I turned him out the first week of June with about a dozen cows as a yearling. I brought him in two weeks before the Ohio State Fair and placed 3rd in class behind the grand and reserve. The judge said all he needed was more condition but I think for only being fed for two days he did pretty good. I'm not saying some of SL's practices or methods were good but I'm happy. Maybe I just got lucky. Wow guess I got lucky with 6v had to have a clean out jump then collected 408 units on next jump. Maybe being older was the key.
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Post by guffeygal on Sept 24, 2013 5:17:52 GMT -6
I think the MKS prefix on the cattle is Matt Sims (Eddie's son).
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Post by midwesterner on Sept 24, 2013 9:27:39 GMT -6
I think the MKS prefix on the cattle is Matt Sims (Eddie's son). No, MKS is the prefix Max Stotz uses.
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Post by jerseymike on Sept 28, 2013 18:18:55 GMT -6
So apparently Tymeless was the only animal he didnt lose money on. Only watched a little but the numbers were terrible.
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Post by whiteface on Sept 28, 2013 18:52:07 GMT -6
Any sale report yet?
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Post by jerseymike on Sept 28, 2013 19:25:05 GMT -6
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Post by jerseymike on Sept 28, 2013 19:30:55 GMT -6
Tymeless was lot 4 he sold for 30,000 for the other half interest harrison bought back to own full interest and possession. Shock wave went for 14k which half interest went for 115k before. Rock star went for 11,750 which he bought from SL for 53k. Hopefully for his sake it was another numbers game with no money changes hands.
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