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Post by timbernt on Feb 12, 2013 20:27:14 GMT -6
I am a 3rd generation Hereford breeder. As I grew up my Dad used genetics from several English bulls (Westhide, Vern, Eaton, Wetmore, Atok, etc.) in an attempt for more performance than American genetics of the 60's offered. Probably as a result of his frustration with the little cattle and the fad followers of that time I have no interest in show winners or what sells for the most money. I am in my own little world trying to find high growth cattle with good conformation that make good females, calve at 24 months, rebreed, and do it on a steady diet of Missouri fescue. I use mostly Canadian horned genetics and it can be quite a challenge to find the ones that work here. I use fullblood Fleckvieh bulls from Buzzard Hollow as a 2-way cross with Hereford on the commercial herd and my Herefords have to perform under the same conditions and standards. Sell about 50 bulls a year into commercial herds in MO and surrounding states. Even have a few Amish customers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 11:06:26 GMT -6
I am a 3rd generation Hereford breeder. As I grew up my Dad used genetics from several English bulls (Westhide, Vern, Eaton, Wetmore, Atok, etc.) in an attempt for more performance than American genetics of the 60's offered. Probably as a result of his frustration with the little cattle and the fad followers of that time I have no interest in show winners or what sells for the most money. I am in my own little world trying to find high growth cattle with good conformation that make good females, calve at 24 months, rebreed, and do it on a steady diet of Missouri fescue. I use mostly Canadian horned genetics and it can be quite a challenge to find the ones that work here. I use fullblood Fleckvieh bulls from Buzzard Hollow as a 2-way cross with Hereford on the commercial herd and my Herefords have to perform under the same conditions and standards. Sell about 50 bulls a year into commercial herds in MO and surrounding states. Even have a few Amish customers. howdy timothy... so do the amish pay cash or want to trade some sort of work/services? |
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Post by timbernt on Feb 13, 2013 20:07:04 GMT -6
Ace - Amish take a vow of humility not poverty. It is best to use a cash price. Besides, in trading labor you have to remember the going rate for a man is $25/ hour and $20/hr for an unmarried man. And you have to provide transportation. One thing you might mention to your family is the paycheck goes directly to the father until the kid is 21. I have a friend that had all girls and the going rate for girls was only $2/hr (they can't be out in the "English" world). His solution was to build a USDA certified kitchen for his girls to make jelly. He buys the ingredients and jars from an "English" company in Michigan and puts it together. He then markets the jam as "Amish made" for a premium. His label is "Miller's Kitchen".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 20:40:04 GMT -6
no amish around here. but any time business comes about with a hutterite colony - they always want to work a deal trading some sort of work for a bull.
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Post by timbernt on Feb 13, 2013 20:56:02 GMT -6
It is interesting that we think of all the German Baptists as a group, but Amish consider Hutterites a cult. Brethren, Dunkards, and Mennonites are considered as cousins. But, they are all German and can be blind about money.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 21:03:40 GMT -6
last time i discussed a deal on a hereford with a local colony here - i told them they could have him if they let me become a hutterite and be the new pig boss.
thats interesting - i don't know any of their history. get along with them, have some help now and then, but get discouraged when they can bid up land for more than what most can pencil it at.
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Post by Mickelson on Feb 13, 2013 21:11:09 GMT -6
but get discouraged when they can bid up land for more than what most can pencil it at. Same here. Your discussion has got my blood boiling!  now I'm pissed. Do they have to pay property tax? F it. I wish I wouldn't have read that. |
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Post by timbernt on Feb 14, 2013 19:58:23 GMT -6
Amish pay all taxes we do except social security and unemployment. When they are baptized (about 18) they sign an agreement with the government that they will not seek nor accept social welfare; as result they are exempt from those taxes. They pay income taxes like us, there is an Amish accountant in Iowa that prepares returns for several in our community (information is exchanged by mail). Property taxes are quite high for Amish because they like big houses and lots of barns.
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Post by jayh on Feb 14, 2013 20:49:02 GMT -6
Amish pay all taxes we do except social security and unemployment. When they are baptized (about 18) they sign an agreement with the government that they will not seek nor accept social welfare; as result they are exempt from those taxes. They pay income taxes like us, there is an Amish accountant in Iowa that prepares returns for several in our community (information is exchanged by mail). Property taxes are quite high for Amish because they like big houses and lots of barns. The Amish around here dont pay any road taxes but sure as hell think they own it. Had Amish build some of my new barn. They own a truck here and hire someone to drive it. As for the other things I know for a fact they own cell phones and have a regular phone that the (community ) uses. They do work and get things done I will give them that. I buy some slab wood from them. 12 dollars a truck load you just about cant cut wood for that. And in summer it goes to 7 bucks. |
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Post by kycowguy on Feb 20, 2013 13:43:27 GMT -6
lurker for a while now. Dont own any herefords yet looking to buy our first soon. My wife grew up in limi deal and my self in the club calf thing. We have decided on herefords for our kids. i have fitted alot of them and have always loved the cattle.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 19:45:42 GMT -6
no way.... NEIL DIAMOND!
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Post by poplars on Mar 13, 2013 21:22:12 GMT -6
My name is Dan Parks. I am part of The Poplars Ranch, Inc. in Silver Lake, OR. I am a 4th generation rancher and we have been in the Hereford business since 1997, but ran mostly hereford based cows since the late 20's. We run a little over a 120 purebred cows and market around 30 to 40 bulls a year. Just found this site the other day and am excited to join in in the conversations.
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Post by bdvorak on Mar 24, 2013 11:34:58 GMT -6
Boyd Dvorak, Our family runs usually between 250-300 Hereford cows, 100-150 yearlings to breed and sell, and farm around a thousand acres of row crop, along with about 800 acres of hay. Keep between 100-175 cows on reg. inventory. Breed the rest Angus. Have a bull sale the first Friday in February. Been watching here for a while now. Learning it is sometimes best to just keep my mouth shut, but a constructive honest conversation is also good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2013 13:22:21 GMT -6
Hi Boyd
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Post by bookcliff on Mar 24, 2013 17:52:37 GMT -6
the Bo-hunk has finally arrived.
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Post by cflory on May 5, 2013 21:35:25 GMT -6
Clint Flory, Baldwin KS. Born and raised with Herefords. Some of you might know my dad, Mike. We run cows together and are Flory Polled Herefords. Around 50 reg. cows and sell 5 to 10 bulls a year. Old line JB Trojans are our main cow herd base and dads new project is combining Feltons and L1s that are polled. Thank you Toms for telling me about this site.
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Post by streamlinegenetics on May 10, 2013 9:24:30 GMT -6
Streamline Genetics, LLC We are a Hereford genetics company specializing in the marketing of semen and embryos. We also do breeding consultation, marketing, and sales. If anyone is in need of Hereford semen or embryos or would like to have an animal listed feel free to give me a call or email. We would love to work with you! www.streamlinegenetics.comstreamlinegenetics@gmail.com 574-297-7478 |
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Post by rockmillsherefords on May 16, 2013 20:49:17 GMT -6
Streamline Genetics, LLC We are a Hereford genetics company specializing in the marketing of semen and embryos. We also do breeding consultation, marketing, and sales. If anyone is in need of Hereford semen or embryos or would like to have an animal listed feel free to give me a call or email. We would love to work with you! www.streamlinegenetics.comstreamlinegenetics@gmail.com 574-297-7478 I guess it’s been right many years ago now, a guy about 35 miles down the road from me started a business a lot like this one, Comstock Cattle Service, interesting how things work out sometimes, he’s the CEO of the Red Angus Assoc. now, anyway, good luck with the new business. |
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Post by blueribbonfarms on May 28, 2013 12:30:29 GMT -6
Jeff Rawie, Walnut Grove MO
We currently have 12 mama cows and 6 recips that we own with our daugher and son in law, Kylie and Aaron Noble. We bought our first cow from Harland Sell about 15 years ago and all but 3 are a decendent from her.
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Post by whitewillow on Jun 8, 2013 8:31:11 GMT -6
I have milled around this site off and on for a while now but never introduced myself. We run about 120 cows in Illinois (80 herefords / 40 mixed breed commercials/recips). Looking to top out @ 150 cows .... eventually. My family has raised Herefords since the mid 70s. Like the various perspectives and tremendous depth of knowledge of site members, as well as viewing pics from around the country of good hereford cattle. Request .... Could someone possibly email instructions how to attach pics to a thread? Trying to get this done via my iPhone and am apparently missing something.
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Post by whitewillow on Jun 8, 2013 8:34:29 GMT -6
Guess I should have included my info .....
Shane Severson
White Willow Polled Herefords
Morris, IL
shanes@sgs170.org
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Post by ellettherefords on Jul 9, 2013 13:48:50 GMT -6
Hello from Fremont Utah,
My name is Brennan Ellett and I have been raising cattle for a few years now but am starting my registered herd this year.
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Post by Mickelson on Aug 6, 2013 15:08:44 GMT -6
Who is this "MOON" character they speak of? Better introduce yourself. I think it might be a Black Hereford breeder from Arkansas???  |
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Post by moon on Aug 6, 2013 18:33:47 GMT -6
Yes, I am from Arkansas. However,too presumptuous just check the BHA list of breeders. Member of Am. Herf. Assn. since 1988 and been involved with Horned Herefords since 9 years old. Grew up on a commercial outfit, and started my own herd of registered horned herefords in 1987. Listed in Kansas Hereford Directory under MOON HEREFORDS. Founding member of the PTP Alliance.
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Post by kclark on Aug 15, 2013 23:48:23 GMT -6
Kinnamon Clark, north central Oklahoma.
Moved back to my hometown five years ago and started a small commercial angus herd. My great-grandparents raised polled Herefords near here (Lamplighters). My little sister talked me into buying a few Herefords because she missed the white faces. I'm now hooked! The remaining angus cows are embryo recips.
Hereford cattle match perfectly with my vision for the farm. It's being restored to native grass after years of over-farming and neglect (acre upon acre of thistle, mares tail, and three awn). Trying to make sustainable agriculture profitable, the hereford's carcass quality with minimal inputs is ideal.
Current status is establishing a base herd of better cows with an eye toward expansion. And continuing to improve pastures!
I lack "crust" and show definite signs of moisture behind the ears. Any advise and input is greatly appreciated!
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now I'm pissed. Do they have to pay property tax? F it. I wish I wouldn't have read that.
