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Post by nicky on Jan 26, 2016 9:03:36 GMT -6
Well, what happened? What did you like or not like?
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Post by bltherf on Jan 26, 2016 20:13:58 GMT -6
Just about something for everyone. But a definite trend to smaller and thicker. I much prefer the type and display of cattle in the yards. Although they are becoming more conditioned these days as well. Bookcliffs were some of the few exhibits in what I would call natural condition. Ones you wouldn't worry about future usefulness. Got a sense some people are now looking for a bit more frame , possibly the trend to thickening up by making them shorter is slowing. Liked some of the catapult , times up sons , Cracker Jack to name a few. Usually a good one in every pen. Maybe the best thing about Denver is it's still one of the greatest places to meet and visit with fellow breeders Need to add a big Just my opinion here.
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Post by bookcliff on Jan 31, 2016 22:04:54 GMT -6
like Byron, it's very diverse anymore something for just about everyone, however the general overall general trend is what tends to bother me.
while we use Denver as an open air trade show with no asperations of kicking the pig in the show, it is in great discust that I find the that the vast majority of "purebred" breeders in attendance (as well as often times the judges themselves) have no concept of how one should actually be able to travel, the difference between red vs white muscle and that true rib shape and capacity starts at the upper portion of the ribcage and width of base , not at the lower portion of the ribcage AKA guts streached to the max with beet pulp, full tank, ect ect ect with both front feet capable of standing in the same posthole. in general it seems that the Canadians in attendance seem to be very much aware of these issues but the boys down here, especially east of KC don't. the other thing that disturbs me is the shear percentage of cattle in attendeance out of primarily 4 or 5 sire lines that by itself might make one question, but the fact that vertually none of them have daughters in production is downright disturbing. it reminds me somewhat of the days of race, encore and primetime to a certain extent. that all being said Denver was good to us again this year, all three of the bulls we packed to promote sold (the fourth were giong to use here this spring) went into purebred programs, sold one breeding interest, and 5 packages of semen. for us anyway, it pays to be old school/real world and thus different that the norm right now.
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Post by hoekland on Feb 5, 2016 0:40:01 GMT -6
like Byron, it's very diverse anymore something for just about everyone, however the general overall general trend is what tends to bother me. while we use Denver as an open air trade show with no asperations of kicking the pig in the show, it is in great discust that I find the that the vast majority of "purebred" breeders in attendance (as well as often times the judges themselves) have no concept of how one should actually be able to travel, the difference between red vs white muscle and that true rib shape and capacity starts at the upper portion of the ribcage and width of base , not at the lower portion of the ribcage AKA guts streached to the max with beet pulp, full tank, ect ect ect with both front feet capable of standing in the same posthole. in general it seems that the Canadians in attendance seem to be very much aware of these issues but the boys down here, especially east of KC don't. the other thing that disturbs me is the shear percentage of cattle in attendeance out of primarily 4 or 5 sire lines that by itself might make one question, but the fact that vertually none of them have daughters in production is downright disturbing. it reminds me somewhat of the days of race, encore and primetime to a certain extent. that all being said Denver was good to us again this year, all three of the bulls we packed to promote sold (the fourth were giong to use here this spring) went into purebred programs, sold one breeding interest, and 5 packages of semen. for us anyway, it pays to be old school/real world and thus different that the norm right now. Tell me more about the Mason bull, he makes a good profile shot, but the video I've seen was less flattering.
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Post by oldduffer on Feb 5, 2016 7:59:18 GMT -6
Having a high percentage of "Denver Cattle" out of 4-5 sire lines with no daughters in production is "downright disturbing".
I find it even more disturbing to see Vicki Leesburg quoted: "Currently L1 genetics are found in 80% of the U.S. Herefords." "I estimate by 2020, every Hereford in the US will have some relation to the herd."
Every breed needs genetic diversity! Just another well intended government program with unintended consequences.
"EXTREMISUM TO PROTECT LIBERTY IS NO VICE!"
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Post by bookcliff on Feb 7, 2016 17:52:55 GMT -6
like Byron, it's very diverse anymore something for just about everyone, however the general overall general trend is what tends to bother me. while we use Denver as an open air trade show with no asperations of kicking the pig in the show, it is in great discust that I find the that the vast majority of "purebred" breeders in attendance (as well as often times the judges themselves) have no concept of how one should actually be able to travel, the difference between red vs white muscle and that true rib shape and capacity starts at the upper portion of the ribcage and width of base , not at the lower portion of the ribcage AKA guts streached to the max with beet pulp, full tank, ect ect ect with both front feet capable of standing in the same posthole. in general it seems that the Canadians in attendance seem to be very much aware of these issues but the boys down here, especially east of KC don't. the other thing that disturbs me is the shear percentage of cattle in attendeance out of primarily 4 or 5 sire lines that by itself might make one question, but the fact that vertually none of them have daughters in production is downright disturbing. it reminds me somewhat of the days of race, encore and primetime to a certain extent. that all being said Denver was good to us again this year, all three of the bulls we packed to promote sold (the fourth were giong to use here this spring) went into purebred programs, sold one breeding interest, and 5 packages of semen. for us anyway, it pays to be old school/real world and thus different that the norm right now. Tell me more about the Mason bull, he makes a good profile shot, but the video I've seen was less flattering. what you see is what you get especially in the video
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Post by btlrupert on Feb 7, 2016 18:40:20 GMT -6
My question is who makes a living from cattle and who is looking for depreciation ! All the great breeders in the Southeast never went to Denver, Luoisville etc!!!! Just my opinion!!!!!!!
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Denver
Feb 7, 2016 19:51:35 GMT -6
Post by bookcliff on Feb 7, 2016 19:51:35 GMT -6
My question is who makes a living from cattle and who is looking for depreciation ! All the great breeders in the Southeast never went to Denver, Luoisville etc!!!! Just my opinion!!!!!!! I could say something but I won't.................
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Denver
Feb 7, 2016 21:16:37 GMT -6
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Post by btlrupert on Feb 7, 2016 21:16:37 GMT -6
Lol
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Denver
Feb 7, 2016 21:23:11 GMT -6
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Post by btlrupert on Feb 7, 2016 21:23:11 GMT -6
Not a whole lot of focus on infected fescue in Denver!!!!!!
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Post by jayh on Feb 9, 2016 17:54:31 GMT -6
The show ring people don't care about fescue. They feed with a sack not fescue.
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