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Post by Glenn on Jul 1, 2015 9:30:48 GMT -6
Sometimes I think the "bull market" in Herefords might run out of steam but then I watch and listen to the "Angus Deniers" and I realize there is still a lot of room to run with this deal.
Nugget I found this morning from an Angus Breeder:
"A baldy cows potential for longevity is wasted if she is blind or prolapsed"
When the "Angus guys" start taking us serious then we can worry about a "top".
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Post by bartholomewcattle on Jul 1, 2015 12:47:07 GMT -6
In my area Glenn, there is plenty of room to grow if people can get over a few things. Salebarns are starting to get away from black hide color a little bit and the extension agents aren't scaring people into low birth bulls constantly. Still room to improve on hide color for sure...and we as a breed can work on birth weights to a point but people need to realize that a 6 yr. old cow doesn't need a negative birthweight bull on her.
Cows in are area are getting too small already. My biggest fear as far as my Hereford bull sales is the horned vs. polled situation....most people here think horned bulls are better but buy strictly for the convenience of the polled. And I'm afraid that different groups wanna phase out horned cattle in general or make it difficult to work them.
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Post by jayh on Jul 2, 2015 9:18:19 GMT -6
In my area Glenn, there is plenty of room to grow if people can get over a few things. Salebarns are starting to get away from black hide color a little bit and the extension agents aren't scaring people into low birth bulls constantly. Still room to improve on hide color for sure...and we as a breed can work on birth weights to a point but people need to realize that a 6 yr. old cow doesn't need a negative birthweight bull on her. Cows in are area are getting too small already. My biggest fear as far as my Hereford bull sales is the horned vs. polled situation....most people here think horned bulls are better but buy strictly for the convenience of the polled. And I'm afraid that different groups wanna phase out horned cattle in general or make it difficult to work them. Again to much time in their chair and not enough time working. U have em in the chute anyway not hard to dehorn a few while they are there. |
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Post by bartholomewcattle on Jul 2, 2015 22:56:03 GMT -6
Totally agree...I wouldn't trade my horned cattle for anything...it don't take me 30 seconds per head to work horns....I'm hoping as the hobby farms get fewer around here people will realize it's not much trouble for the positive trade off of good cattle.
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Post by klee on Jul 3, 2015 18:10:09 GMT -6
What are some of the Line 1 bulls that will add frame and not sacrifice udders and maternal traits. Have been using a 8050 son and do not really want to go any smaller in frame. The larger commercial producers seem to be more incilined to use the horned bulls than the small producers.
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Post by bartholomewcattle on Jul 4, 2015 9:29:58 GMT -6
What are some of the Line 1 bulls that will add frame and not sacrifice udders and maternal traits. Have been using a 8050 son and do not really want to go any smaller in frame. The larger commercial producers seem to be more incilined to use the horned bulls than the small producers. I talked with Perry Debter just recently and they collected their 736 bull...he's a 286 son....he's got good frame and I've seen several females by him that are real good...his sons sell good as well. |
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Post by picketwire on Jul 6, 2015 8:09:55 GMT -6
Nugget I found this morning from an Angus Breeder:
"A baldy cows potential for longevity is wasted if she is blind or prolapsed"
Truer words have never been spoken! ! However, I also recall some words of wisdom from an old commercial breeder, "open, wild and unruly cows belong not in a beefcow herd". The sooner all breeds pay attention to each of their own shortcomings, the better off we will all be. If the Angus breeder that thinks those problems are still rampant in this breed, they are doing themselves a disservice, just as those are in this breed are by not working to insure that no one worries about such an issue again.
And by the way, saw a sight that made me grin from ear to ear just yesterday. A herd of black cows raising some nice strapping charolais sired calves with a good looking horned Hereford bull with the breeding duties this season!!
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