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Post by strojanherefords on Jan 20, 2015 13:38:35 GMT -6
Is there a current breed standard for the Hereford breed or are the shows decided on the judges whim?
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Post by randy on Jan 20, 2015 18:30:51 GMT -6
ROFLMAO..... OH HECK NO.... There seems to be zero standard..... Has there ever been such a thing? I don't believe in my lifetime... Someone always seems to have a reason to pimp something different.
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Post by strojanherefords on Jan 22, 2015 23:45:49 GMT -6
Since I have been laughed out of the show ring. I will ask those with more experience than myself what is ideal phenotype for Hereford cattle?
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Post by George on Jan 23, 2015 1:04:00 GMT -6
Since I have been laughed out of the show ring. I will ask those with more experience than myself what is ideal phenotype for Hereford cattle? |
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Post by jayh on Jan 23, 2015 3:33:15 GMT -6
Is it me or did most of them not walk good?.
Alot looked sickle hocked or do I just not have enough in mine?
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Post by pwbedy on Jan 23, 2015 12:44:48 GMT -6
Yeah, They all Limp in the rear legs & that's carried down from Pure Gold with the High hip & Low shoulder!
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Post by strojanherefords on Jan 25, 2015 14:25:01 GMT -6
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Post by tartancowgirl on Jan 25, 2015 15:01:59 GMT -6
Yes this is our breed standard that we try to follow. As far as I know the animal pictured is a bull called Westwood Postman, a famous UK champion from about 1980. He appears in the pedigree of one of our cows. Would be interested in comments about him - obviously he's a different type from what you are used to looking at.
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Post by shiloh on Feb 7, 2015 19:14:11 GMT -6
I have looked and looked for a breed standard and the best I can come up with is the Hereford Type Conference of 1969. The only information on that, anywhere, is in a Hereford Journal from that year. I went to the Hereford Genetic Summit last year, thinking I would hear something like that, but they only talked about the market and performance traits. I firmly believe that form follows function, but I still find it slightly odd that we don't have a uniform common goal. How do we measure progress as a breed if we don't know where we're going? I also understand that people need to be able to breed to suit their own particular tastes and markets. I can see why we don't have a standard, but I think some sort of published goal would still be useful, especially for people who don't put much effort into their breeding plan.
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Post by btlrupert on Feb 7, 2015 20:23:21 GMT -6
I would be scared for anyone to set a breed standard. I sure as heck won't be dictated to what "type" cattle I should produce. Cattlemen are independent as heck! Environment dictates "type and kind". As for those who are multipliers and need some one to define a breed standard., I wish they would just get out of the business and allow serious breeders to provide the seed stock . Just my humble southern opinion!
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Post by randy on Feb 9, 2015 11:56:17 GMT -6
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Post by strojanherefords on Feb 9, 2015 11:58:30 GMT -6
The reason why I asked about the breed standard was because I have never had any formal training on judging phenotype. And I recognize that there are some things about structure that I need to learn.
As far as Westwood Postman is concerned, I like him in spite of his lack of pigmentation.
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Post by Glenn on Feb 9, 2015 12:44:41 GMT -6
Funny video, Randy. I think I've seen some of the cattle in Ft Worth waddle like those Herefords in that video......
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Post by hoekland on Feb 9, 2015 13:51:02 GMT -6
I would be scared for anyone to set a breed standard. I sure as heck won't be dictated to what "type" cattle I should produce. Cattlemen are independent as heck! Environment dictates "type and kind". As for those who are multipliers and need some one to define a breed standard., I wish they would just get out of the business and allow serious breeders to provide the seed stock . Just my humble southern opinion! Typically a breed standard is pretty vague with a lot of room for interpretation, the ones I've seen certainly doesn't dictate a type. |
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Post by btlrupert on Feb 9, 2015 16:41:29 GMT -6
Really enjoyed the video! Thanks for posting that Randy.
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