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Post by bookcliff on Sept 18, 2014 11:27:43 GMT -6
for the crown or for Bonnie Prince Charlie 265 years later.
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Post by nicky on Sept 18, 2014 12:00:55 GMT -6
Yeah, I wondered that too.
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Post by bltherf on Sept 18, 2014 12:29:20 GMT -6
What would Wallace say!,
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Post by larso on Sept 18, 2014 14:20:32 GMT -6
I was wondering the same thing myself. the saying ' If it is not broken why fix it ' comes to mind.
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Post by tartancowgirl on Sept 18, 2014 17:20:40 GMT -6
OK folks - I voted "Yes!". Why? Because it is broken - there is a lot of dissatisfaction in Scotland with successive British governments. I"ll never have another chance in my lifetime and I'd love to see Scotland do what's best for us rather than having crumbs from Westminster's table.
However I'm sure the "No"s will win - most people are too scared to risk change, especially the elderly. Farmers are divided, but most are just terrified to lose their big fat Single Farm Payment subsidies if Scotland is not allowed to be part of the EU any more. But David Cameron has promised an In/ Out of the EU referendum in the next year or two, so we may be out anyway! We get very little subsidy as it is because we were New Entrants so that didn't concern us.
So how is it viewed in other countries? I'm surprised anyone is bothered! We're a very small country after all!
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Post by Carlos (frmaiz) on Sept 18, 2014 18:42:10 GMT -6
As on outsider I am curious because the outcome will set an example for other countries, like Spain among them where I have relatives.
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Post by bookcliff on Sept 18, 2014 21:27:42 GMT -6
OK folks - I voted "Yes!". Why? Because it is broken - there is a lot of dissatisfaction in Scotland with successive British governments. I"ll never have another chance in my lifetime and I'd love to see Scotland do what's best for us rather than having crumbs from Westminster's table. However I'm sure the "No"s will win - most people are too scared to risk change, especially the elderly. Farmers are divided, but most are just terrified to lose their big fat Single Farm Payment subsidies if Scotland is not allowed to be part of the EU any more. But David Cameron has promised an In/ Out of the EU referendum in the next year or two, so we may be out anyway! We get very little subsidy as it is because we were New Entrants so that didn't concern us. So how is it viewed in other countries? I'm surprised anyone is bothered! We're a very small country after all! as one whose Scottish forbears fought his majesty's redcoats in the Jacobite rebellion and had to flee for their lives after Culloden to the colonies in the 1740's or were later forced out to the colonies in the Highland clearances I'd a' voted yes too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! almost had to drag out my kilt outa the trunk and wear it today. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl96vNqNjlgas far as how I view it, the commonwealth is so just in name, and England's possessions of the days of the sun never sets on the empire pretty much have all thrown off the encompassing yoke of Westminister Abbey, so why not you all as well. all we hear at least in our neck of the woods is Glasgow will vote to stay, the older folks to stay, the Highlands and Islands to leave and the younger generations to leave, will be interested to see what happens. |
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Post by strojanherefords on Sept 18, 2014 21:44:06 GMT -6
Although I am a patriotic American, I consider myself a son of the British Empire with ancestors from England, Scotland, Ireland and Canada. While I have no contact with any relatives in the old country, I feel a deep attachment to all the good Great Britain has done for the world. So sentimentally I would hate to see it broken up.
On a practical basis, I think about what happened to Austria-Hungary, my other old country. My great-grandfather was Slovene and my great-grandmother was a Czech; and thank God they left before WWI. Had Austria-Hungary remained intact neither Hitler nor the communist would have gained a foothold.
So, if Scotland declares independence, is Angus still a British breed?
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Post by tartancowgirl on Sept 19, 2014 3:18:04 GMT -6
Well the result was what I expected, but actually Glasgow voted to go and Edinburgh and most of the east voted to stay. There were some late further devolution promises made by the Westminster politicians, but the problem is that it has stirred up English nationalism now, so I have little faith that anything will actually happen! It was almost funny how the main politicians really ignored the debate until the last minute and then suddenly realised that there was a real threat that the "Yes" campaign might win and they all came to Scotland. Let's hope they were not empty promises!
Thanks for taking an interest - pity "Scotland the Brave" wasn't!
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Post by bltherf on Sept 19, 2014 7:27:20 GMT -6
Sorry things didn't go your way tarton, but glad to still have you as a Commonwealth cousin. Political stability is good for exports and from our point of view very happy to hear there will be no interruption in the flow of your very excellent Scotch whiskey!,
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Post by bookcliff on Sept 19, 2014 17:24:05 GMT -6
Political stability is good for exports and from our point of view very happy to hear there will be no interruption in the flow of your very excellent Scotch whiskey!, amen to that................... |
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Post by hoekland on Sept 21, 2014 3:16:19 GMT -6
I wish SA stayed a British subject, then they could have finished what they had started instead of us getting the blame for it.
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