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Post by strojanherefords on Sept 11, 2014 17:39:58 GMT -6
What comes to mind when you hear the following?
Hereford
Angus
Red Angus
Gelbvieh
Simmental
Charolais
Santa Gertrudis
Longhorn
As a matter of reputation, where do you think the Herford sits compared with these breeds?
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Post by erherf on Sept 11, 2014 19:27:40 GMT -6
For me Santa Gertrudis and Longhorn are the only ones on the list that really have a consistent type. When someone says one of these breeds a clear image come to mind. The other six to me have as many differences within the breed, as between the breeds. I really have a problem with people who generalize breeds anymore, because of the differences within breeds. Wish I knew the answer to Strojans question, but Herefords other color pattern are really not that consistent in type, just my opinion. I know what type of Hereford I am trying to breed, but that doesn't mean it is going to be popular with the masses. The three continental breeds were fairly consistent in type when introduced to America and then we fixed them. Herefords, angus and red angus were pretty consistent tell the continental breeds were introduced then we fixed them too! We as Hereford breeders have made some tremendous progress in eliminating some of the stigmas that haunted the breed. Many of the breeders of old did a fair amount of linebreeding, now so many strive for more heterosis within the breed, which just leads to more genetic combinations and differences in type.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 5:43:33 GMT -6
What comes to mind when you hear the following? Hereford Angus Red Angus Gelbvieh Simmental Charolais Santa Gertrudis Longhorn As a matter of reputation, where do you think the Herford sits compared with these breeds? I tend to think of the people in the breed as opposed to any one animal or bloodline. Black Angus means convicted felons, high school dropouts, and shady characters locally. Charolais is a working man's bull. The impression many give on this board is that Hereford breeders are ass kicking billionaires insulting anyone and everyone who doesn't buy what they are selling. Seriously, why do you think Gardiner can sell his nonsense to so many people? Because he knows how to treat people. Courtesy costs nothing and pays dividends... |
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Post by tartancowgirl on Sept 12, 2014 14:18:39 GMT -6
What comes to mind when you hear the following? Hereford Angus Red Angus Gelbvieh Simmental Charolais Santa Gertrudis Longhorn As a matter of reputation, where do you think the Herford sits compared with these breeds? In the UK, unfortunately the Hereford, having been the most popular beef breed in the 1970s, is now bottom of the list (well, we don't have Santa Gertrudis as far as I know, and there aren't very many Red Angus or Gelbvieh). The Longhorn is of course for us the English Longhorn, a minority breed but gaining rapidly in popularity for its excellent beef. The Hereford probably has the best reputation for temperament and apparently because of this they are the most popular choice for "hobby breeders" and wealthy individuals who, along with Highlands and Belted Galloways, want something decorative for country estates. The opinions I have heard expressed from farmers are "too rangy", "narrow", "no milk", "the breed has lost it's way". However despite this, registrations are rising and the breed is doing well in Interbreed competitions in the show ring. Also some processors have introduced a "native breed beef premium" for Hereford sired cattle. The most successful show specimens of the Modern Hereford (as opposed to our Traditionals) are extremely tall, easily as large as the largest Charolais. I don't know what the Breed Society can do to increase popularity  - unfortunately they give the impression that they think everything is wonderful but of course the show ring is a long way from farming reality. In my view they need to concentrate more on things like maternal traits especially calving ease, and food conversion efficiency and stop trying to breed a Hereford the size of an elephant! |
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Post by strojanherefords on Sept 13, 2014 9:45:19 GMT -6
How do we feel about the Hereford being the it breed of the day?
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Post by strojanherefords on Sept 16, 2014 15:36:12 GMT -6
What comes to mind when I hear the following:
Longhorn- Poor quality but quarter bloods make good cows
Simmental- Big and flabby
Charolais- Terminal cross
Santa Gertrudis- I would like to see some halfblood daughters
Angus- $beef from a tank
Gelbvieh- Black only better
Red Angus- Good cows
Hereford- Old timer cattle that have not been changed for better or worse; or rich people cattle that do not do well being roughed.
I feel that the new breeders of Herefords will cause a perception that Herefords are little different than Angus.
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