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Post by jayh on Sept 2, 2014 11:18:22 GMT -6
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Post by bookcliff on Sept 2, 2014 19:50:25 GMT -6
the wetmore bull is before my time. the other pedigree is pretty much too, need to take to the old timers on the second one. never was around any husker bred cattle, the Mo Le britisher breeding Gus gustafson could tell you alot about, he used some of it back years ago.
Wayne is married into the Roy Largent clan runs some hereford cows and is a CAA member. does alot of Hereford stuff, primaily set in west Texas. the proud breed, the royal breed, spring, up outa the dust,twins, a good lickin, and my favorite--frosty morning
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Post by bltherf on Sept 2, 2014 21:39:40 GMT -6
First bull was sired by a Hans Ulrich bull. They had AGA in the pedigree name. That is Lilys father in law so he would know a lot more..Cow sired by an Edgar LRD bull. The Ardmore on the dam side below was probably Bert Powlesland, as one famous well used bull he raised was Ardmore c domino 560.
Bull on the very top side. Britisher Mixer came from Pine coulee ranch I think, which was the land Hans Ulrich ranches on today. Classic old English/Canadian pedigree.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 23:04:41 GMT -6
all growing up the cows here were either direct daughters or grandaughters to a son of 50Y that was bought from hans' brother. call lily or better yet call hans... his phone number is on their website i think. he gets a twinkle in his eye reminiscing about those cattle. i don't remember my old man speaking higher about any other bull than he did about the son he had... and any time i ask about the pedigrees of the cows before i was old enough to know them he always said that the 50Y son he had basically put him on the map. edgars imported the wetmore halflight bull from england... would be neat to hear that story.
side note... byron did you ever see the ulrich bull edgars used britisher domino aga 35A?
edited to add: maybe phone keith lapp. he is using a direct son of 50Y and i believe has maybe a couple 2 3 direct daughters.
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Post by bltherf on Sept 3, 2014 7:20:36 GMT -6
Yes I remember a bit about 35a. I think he was one of the high selling bulls of his time. I believe my dad used a son . Daughters were the sttrong suit,don't remember too many sons, but that was a while ago.
Think that 50 y was a pretty good performance sire compared to most back then
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Post by moon on Sept 3, 2014 17:40:56 GMT -6
First, in 50Y's pedigree is 38J whom Russell Rosenberg in Washington intensified his herd around. Wetmore Halflight was either imported or came in his imported dam. Was told by a breeder near LRD that the Halflights were very good performance cattle. The Canadians on HT can answer these much better. ABS I believe once had rights to 50Y, and if Keith Lapp is using him he would know scoop best of anyone. Second, the Baize bull is interesting starting with 14F whom George Werth and Sons used in the 70's following some other Canadian and Chris Jacobsen bulls. I saw some descendants back in late 80's which were very yellow and adequate milkers. 14F goes back to Hume Porteous (misspelled??) Duncan's father. DP I was told stood for Dog Pound Herefords. The 39 bull on top of 14F's three generation pedigree was also the grandsire of ML Domino 85B made famous by Wilf Evans, and semen rights in States owned by Fox Herefords. The MA prefix was for Moyle Anderson's herd. The 5S bull at bottom of pedigree was grandsire of Rusticana 560 65G owned by Rogers Hereford Ranch in Kansas. 65G was said to sired good milking, highly fertile daughters. Further back is Winrock Husker Type a bull which Fred Ferrell and Glen Garrett (misspelled??). Went to Garrett complete dispersal saw several own daughters and grandaughters. Very functional cows for that time period, but had to watch udders but did on most bulls back then. WHT was a highly paraded and successful show bull, might have been carcass ROM. They sold interest to breeder in Spain. The Lake Creek Mischief bull was a renamed Descheemaker bull. The Lake Creek herd dispersed in late 70's in Texas. I do not think this bull set the world a fire. MJB prefix bull was used by Largent and Sons and was out of the Fraser's herd in Montana by the 48th and saw some of his daughters at the McLean Dispersal in '77. Highly touted bull, but not that impressed with what I saw. Frasers were hooked up with Chet Huntley who was famous anchor for NBC nightly news in 60's and into early 70's, they dispersed there joint herd in early 70's. Further back is B Silver Tone 18 and the Sun Zato Heir cattle saw many descendants at Codding Cattle Ranch complete dispersal in '75, very hardy, easy fleshing but again udder watch. Have catalog with some pictures of these cattle. TEX prefix is for Born Herefords at Follett, Texas, and Dominion prefix is for Still House Hollow in Virginia. Saw a lot of bad udders on Still House cattle in pictures. Also, saw some Colorado Blanchards at Garrett dispersal. This bull was just a renamed Onward bred bull and his cows were ok, but his bulls just bulls. Spoke with Fred Ferrell in early 80's and confirmed lot of hype with CB, but cows when crossed right did produce some useful offspring.
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Post by moon on Sept 3, 2014 17:45:29 GMT -6
I made a mistake when said MJB bull out of Frasers, meant his sire the 48th. MJB is for Murry J. Brown from Montana.
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