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Post by Glenn on Nov 4, 2013 19:48:46 GMT -6
That is pitiful about Ken Ochs. Somebody should have seen to it that something was in there. Shameful
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 10:01:41 GMT -6
If you quit our Herefords are one step closer to being another hobby breed. You would always have an empty place in your psyche. Your herd would drop to the value of commercial cows. You would not be able to converse with other Hereford breeders on an equal footing. You would not have the same interest in the new crop of calves on the way. Yeah, we have all wondered why we do this. Probably a lot like other addictions. All the same, you will be glad you stayed with the registered Herefords. and heart... but, seems like the more a guy lets his heart be involved in the biz end of a ranch - the more mistakes get made. i think you're pretty much right tho, an addiction - these stupid hereford cows keep my mind occupied and gives me something to be proud of and a goal to shoot for.... i love the chance to converse with other hereford people (why i like this site so much), but have never been on equal footing - i just kinda ignore that part and converse away... they are just people like anyone else. i don't believe in elite.
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Post by picketwire on Nov 6, 2013 10:34:55 GMT -6
Ace, could not agree more. There are no elite despite what the arrogant ones believe, and that extends beyond the Hereford breed into every facet of life. I believe I see just exactly that in the majority of Hereford breeders nowadays. It is so much better and easier to approach the majority of breeders in conversation about the ups, downs, ins and outs of the Hereford breed. There are definitely elite programs, but the very best of those elite programs (and again a high majority in my mind) are ran by very approachable, knowledgeable assets to the breed just as the rest of the programs in this breed. I happen to believe that elite programs and popular ones are not the same thing nor are they exclusive.
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Post by George on Nov 7, 2013 11:29:35 GMT -6
Someone suggested that EPDs could and should be expressed in a range...and then I believe that idea was panned. It appears the Aussies are doing just that:
Understanding the EBV Standard Error GraphThe EBV Standard Error graph provides an indication of the possible change in EBVs for each trait. The horizontal bar for each trait displays one standard error either side of the current EBV value, meaning that statistically, there is a 67% chance that the true breeding value for this trait will be within this range. Another way of looking at this is to consider that as more performance information is added for this animal, the EBV would be expected to fall within the EBV range displayed in the graph 67% of the time. Of course, as the EBV takes into account all the pedigree and performance information that is available at this point in time, the EBV is also the most reliable indication available of the animal's breeding value for each trait at this point in time. Within the display of the EBV Standard Graph: • The actual EBV Accuracy for each trait is shown at the left side of the graph. • The Breed Avg values are listed in the centre of the graph and reflect the average EBVs of current animals within the breed (eg. all 2 year old animals). • The minimum and maximum EBV values displayed at the left and right of the graph for each trait represent four standard deviations from the current Breed Avg values, rather than the current minimum and maximum EBV values for the breed. • The horizontal bar displays where the animal is placed in relation to the current animals within the breed for each trait. One standard error either side of the current EBV value is displayed, meaning that statistically, there is a 67% chance that the true breeding value for this trait will be within this range. As an illustration of the interpretation of the EBV Standard Error graph, in the example below the animal’s 400 Day Wt EBV is of higher accuracy than its Calv Ease Dtrs EBV and so there is less possible change in the 400 Day Wt EBV as additional information becomes available.
But what do those folks living in the Southern Hemisphere REALLY know anyway? Right!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 15:07:25 GMT -6
But what do those folks living in the Southern Hemisphere REALLY know anyway? Right! Read more: herefordtalk.com/thread/1769?page=4#ixzz2k5f2hfsPWell, I had a group here from Argentina a year or two ago. They told me beforehand they wanted 4 to 5 frame cattle. ROFLMAO.... The cow they picked out weighed about 1750#.
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