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Post by hrndherf on Mar 24, 2013 11:26:22 GMT -6
I'll see if I can post pictures without them being attachments. A couple 8403 heifer calves
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Post by hrndherf on Mar 24, 2013 11:42:09 GMT -6
That wasn't so bad. Just had to figure out photobucket.
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Post by hoekland on Mar 24, 2013 12:04:28 GMT -6
That is the one bull that I always wanted to use, but semen doesn't qualify (if there is even still semen available)
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Post by nicky on Mar 24, 2013 12:43:25 GMT -6
They look good!
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Post by Mickelson on Mar 24, 2013 15:25:23 GMT -6
That wasn't so bad. Just had to figure out photobucket. Nice job with the pictures and calves too. Can u post a link to the sires pedigree?
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Post by bookcliff on Mar 24, 2013 17:46:36 GMT -6
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Post by Glenn on Mar 24, 2013 18:18:41 GMT -6
Great job, posting! Nice calves. Keep us posted, I know myself and several members will be keen to see how they develop!
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Post by hrndherf on Jul 8, 2013 22:25:45 GMT -6
An update on the same 2 heifer calves. Finally got away for a couple hours to move this bunch into a new pasture-been over a month since they had been checked.
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Post by hrndherf on Jul 8, 2013 22:30:43 GMT -6
A few random pictures Heifer calf out of an old Bar Pipe bull 137Y Flush bull calf 1107Y (955W X dam of above Flush calf) sired bull calf
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Post by Mickelson on Jul 9, 2013 6:21:02 GMT -6
I like the 685 bull calf the best. It will be intersting to see how they progress and wean off. Wherever you live, it sure looks nice.
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Post by hoekland on Jul 9, 2013 6:57:20 GMT -6
I'm very interested to see how that 137Y calf develops, he's not spectacular at the moment but he is very well proportioned.
While I'm on the 137Y topic... how big was he? I remember reading on Pharo's site that he was a frame 2.5, but given his pedigree it just doesn't sound right?
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Post by timbernt on Jul 9, 2013 9:31:27 GMT -6
Probably right. I saw him when he was in he was in his teens. Probably about 13 or 14 years old. In a big pasture by himself, in really good condition on native grass. Horns were totally smooth indicating to me that he was an easy keeping animal that had not undergone any severe stress in his life. I would have guessed him at 1600 lbs. Probably would not have been much heavier at a younger age. My take was that he was a perfectly made easy keeping little bull that should work well on heifers. Keith did not have any sons of him at that time and I bought a son of his 238Y bull (half brother to 137Y) instead. Unfortunately he thru calves too big for heifers and ocular dermoids. Keith thoght the ocular dermoids came from his mother who was L1. She was an own daughter of 386.
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Post by hrndherf on Jul 11, 2013 23:09:04 GMT -6
Mickelson-Central Montana does have some scenery. This country does look good this year. People were selling pairs in May because we were so dry and no hay or grass left. Then the rains started and they were plentiful and timely. This is the best grass year we have had for a few years. 685's calf sure took off in the last month I hadn't seen him. Didn't even recognize him-he must appreciate the green grass.
Hoekland-Your right, he is not spectacular. I do like the calf and I think he has some potential. Anxious to see how he develops.
As far as 137Y being a 2.5-I agree with you. I didn't see the bull but have heard from a couple people that said the same as tim. But I have seen a number of progeny and haven't seen one that came close to 2.5. I would guess a lot in that 6 range. With a handful in the 5's.
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Post by hrndherf on Apr 27, 2016 1:04:09 GMT -6
Great job, posting! Nice calves. Keep us posted, I know myself and several members will be keen to see how they develop! The first heifer calf pictured in this thread raised this bull calf. He's her first calf and was the top weaning bull in the group.
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Post by elkwc on Apr 27, 2016 4:41:36 GMT -6
Looks nice.
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Post by oldduffer on Apr 27, 2016 8:42:25 GMT -6
hrndherf: Interested in hearing more about the 8403 calves. How are their dams bred? Have you used 8403 before......if so how did they do? LOOKING GOOD! Any others with 8403 experience?
'EXTREMISM TO PROTECT LIBERTY IS NO VICE!!!!!!!!"
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Post by hrndherf on Apr 27, 2016 22:45:27 GMT -6
hrndherf: Interested in hearing more about the 8403 calves. How are their dams bred? Have you used 8403 before......if so how did they do? LOOKING GOOD! Any others with 8403 experience? 'EXTREMISM TO PROTECT LIBERTY IS NO VICE!!!!!!!!" The pedigree for the 17U bull that is pictured. linkThe pedigree for the other achiever daughter linkI only AIed to 8403 the one year. Got 2 bulls and 2 heifers. Both bulls were bought by 2 different commercial ranchers and they are happy with the calves out of them. The 2 females seem to be heavier milkers, good uddered, both calved the first 2 days of calving season this year-after raising their first calves. Both been in heat at least twice again this spring before bulls go out May 4. Birth weights are good. They aren't in as good body condition as the Neon's, 137Y's and 9A's, but are compareable to the 955W granddaughters. Both had 17U calves last year and they weaned above average and YW was above average. There calves also scanned a better REA than their EPD's said they should. Overall, happy with them so far, but they only have their second calf at side now. Their are a couple on here that could give you better and more knowledge on their experiences than I can at this point.
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Post by bookcliff on Apr 30, 2016 15:55:33 GMT -6
hrndherf: Any others with 8403 experience? probalby had somewhere between 200 and 300 of em (papered, commerical herfs and baldies) over the years both of my own and CCR. stillhave about 30 units of him in the can. lost my double bred 8403 son this past breeding seasaon to an old fetlock injury (sumac stub thru the soft lamina and midigating infection a couple of years ago combined with wear on that damaged joint over the last two years) in my opionion one generation away from direct 8403s is the ticket, too much milk with direct 8403's at least in my program. achiever blood in genera does the following in my expereince---nice udders, fairly consistant mid 80's BW, calves damn sure enough have marbling to consistanly go chioce, have enough REA to go somewhere around PAR and tend to do substatically better than the industry average on cost of gain.
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